Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

thats alot of questions.

I can answer one, you dont need the crv timing mount that is only for type s rsx and civic si 2006+.

I also do not think the k24a3 is bolton with the k20 head, the k24a1 and k24a2 stock engines are the only ones that work with the k20 vtec heads. any other block needs different pistons.

sorry can't help anymore then that.

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

hi thanks for your info. i know many questions but for do a good job i need to ask e verything it's a good idea if when u answer u put the number of the question so i can upgrade the first post everytime. i don't want change pistons and rod,so i need looking for k24a2. but before i think i must change them only if i use k24a4 ...
tonight i edit and upgrade because now im by my mobile phone

ps:how can i modify the title? if i go to edit i can change only the text. i do something wrong?

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

You have this motor right?
http://k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=85280
?

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

You have this motor right?
http://k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=85280
?

Now i no have nothing in my hand. only planning the job. but yes for me is easy buy A3 block because in europe we have accord 2.4.
so this block is same A2?pistons,oil cooler,etc.? and i can get 7800 rpm revwwith stock components? about oil squirters im in doubt.have o no have?
i dont understand what mean parts like Prb,prc,rbc.however yes for me its so easy find and start with A3.

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Yes, it is very similar to the K24A2.
You will not need to change a lot of the parts.

No need for the K20A head.
No need for the oil cooler.
No need to swap pistons or rods.

Swap the K20A2 oil pump. :up:
Already have the piston oil squirter :up:


You need this part for the K24

NUMBER 10=ENGINE MOUNTS FOT CIVIC HB 93
http://hasport.com/store/index.php/m...series-eg.html
EGK1 if I use K20AorK20A2 tranny yes
EGK3 if I use another tranny K24 tranny


NUMBER 11= GROUND CLEARANCE
Could u tell me if is a good ground clearance or the oil pan is very near to the floor?Pics?
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35570


NUMBER 12=AXELS AND INTERMEDIATE SHAFT
Which ones? Intermediate shafts of K24A3 and axels of hybrid racing K swap or something like that? Or is better fit: external joint Bserie; axle K20 or K24?internal joint K24?
if you use the K20 transmission you need the K20 intermediate shaft, K24 needs K24 intermediate shaft


NUMBER 13=POWER STERRING AND HOOD CLEARANCE
By buying this, it works and the hood can close?
Do you want power steering?
http://k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=58599


NUMBER 14=WIRING
Which wiring I need to use? Is there one already assembled same hybrid racing wiring for Kswap?
Any info step by step,pics of all sensor and connectors?
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21854
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showpost.php?p=604028&postcount=16


NUMBER 15=ECU
Which ECU I need to use? Finally kpro, but for start the engine and use the car soft,no runs, no nothing, only daily use?
you will need K-pro so you can bypass the immobilizer and turn off ODII
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showpost.php?p=603905&postcount=6

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

thanks,tonight i check good all the links and i tell u possible doubts. now tell me where do u live because i want came to kiss u for say thanks

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

thanks,tonight i check good all the links and i tell u possible doubts. now tell me where do u live because i want came to kiss u for say thanks

lol, you don't want to come here :silly:
Let us know what questions you have and we will do our best to help :up:

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Signalpuke to the rescue !

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

i update the first post with the new info.
The questions about sensors,ecu and wiring i mark 'ok' but i want read again all the links for understand. So about that i ask more later.

Now quickly questions for complete:

NUMBER 2=TRANSMISSION
K serie fit bolt on?
i want LSD so:
1-buy K20A tranny
2-fit aftermarket LSD: which tranny? K20A2 or K20A3 tranny? which is the best?

NUMBER 3=OTHER COMPONENTS tell me please if what i write is correct or not. write OK or NOT OK and what u suggest
K24 Timing Chain+ Guides+Tensioner : are already on the engine and i can reuse them
K24 Timing cover: is already on the engine and i can reuse it
K24 Headgasket: is already on the engine but is better replace with a new one

Need to buy
K20A2 Crank Pulley
K20A2 Alternator (no use K24)
K20A2 Thermo housing
K20A2 Starter (no use K24)
K20A2 Oil pan, pump and chain guide
K20A2 oil cooler (no need, K24A3 already have)
K20A2 water pump (no use K24 because is smaller)
K20A2 Starter (no use K24)
S2000 joint cooler,p art # 11107-pt2-000 (no need for fit oil cooler because K24A3 already have)
K20A2 Crank baffle (this? http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGxXekyIp9SQIvWqW6GFCXjVKLr6ZsU4Uakyk34h119y2o3QIB&t=1
if i put k20a2 oil pump i need put also his crank baffle? i cannot fit the pump with no crank baffle or
K24 crank baffle?)
NUMBER 4=WATER PUMP AND OIL COOLER tell me please if what i write is correct or not. write OK or NOT OK and what u suggest
We already said that K24A3 have oil cooler, so no neeb work on it.
It's better fit K20A2 water pump because is bigger than K24A3.
After that remains only to connect the two hoses.
Water pump and hoses fit bolt on

NUMBER 5=OIL PUMP
take out K24 oil pump

http://image.hondatuningmagazine.co...htup_0511_04_o+k24_engine_block_k20_cylinder_head_build+oil_pickup_assembly.jpg

modify and fit k20a2 oil pump, k20a2 chain and chain tensioner

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/3941/qweac.jpg

Important: with k20a2 oil pump, tapping oil orifice.
WHY ON MY FIRST POST SAY TAPPING ONLY ONE AND ONLY THAT OIL OREFICE
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2992/oneec.jpg

BUT HERE SAY TAPPING TWO OIL OREFICES? CAN U READ AND EXPLAIN ME? maybe because he do another kind of modify? LOOK
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/...azine.com/tech/htup_0511_k24_engine_block_k20_cylinder_head_build/photo_04.html
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3889/dddddkd.jpg

how many and which oil orefice i need to tap?

NUMBER 6= CRANK BUFFLE
Tell me everything about it please. I don’t know what is it. I only know it need from K20A2

NUMBER 7= CRANK PULLEY
Need K20A2 one, right? Which tensioner I use?

NUMBER 8= EXHAUST HEADERS HONDA CIVIC HB 93
any headers for Kswap are good?

NUMBER 12A=AXELS
Which ones?
-hybrid racing K swap axels? other brands?
-external joint Bserie; axle K20/K24; internal joint K24/20 (if K24 int.shaft/if K20 int.shaft; OR INTERNAL K20 JOINT IS SAME K24?)
I say this "hybridation" because here in italy, we have civic hb 93, with k20a engine. The owner sais that only with Hasport mounts the best axels are: external joint from Bserie,axle, internale joint and int. shaft from K serie (dc5).
With this setup it run over 30.000km and no any trouble. With hybrid racing mounts, this combination NO WORK

NUMBER 13=POWER STERRING
im in doubt about put an electric power sterring pump.
Example: K20A from DC5 has a mechanic p/s pump. The problem when we fit the motor inside the civic hb, is that the pulley hit on the hood. For clear the problem we have two ways:
1- put an electric p/s pump
2- put an Adjustable Pulley Kit, same this but for K24 (i never look if is on sale on the web swap shop). What do u think?
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=142

NUMBER 16=HP AND TORQUE
With this simple set up of only OEM parts, which values I can reach?

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

i update the first post with the new info.
The questions about sensors,ecu and wiring i mark 'ok' but i want read again all the links for understand. So about that i ask more later.

Now quickly questions for complete:

NUMBER 2=TRANSMISSION
K serie fit bolt on?
i want LSD so:
1-buy K20A tranny
2-fit aftermarket LSD: which tranny? K20A2 or K20A3 tranny? which is the best?
The K20A tranny has LSD inside.
The K20A2/A3 tranny has no LSD.
You can use any K-series LSD, but you need the ring gear.
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=72156


NUMBER 3=OTHER COMPONENTS tell me please if what i write is correct or not. write OK or NOT OK and what u suggest
K24 Timing Chain+ Guides+Tensioner : are already on the engine and i can reuse them
K24 Timing cover: is already on the engine and i can reuse it
K24 Headgasket: is already on the engine but is better replace with a new one

Need to buy
K20A2 Crank Pulley
K20A2 Alternator (no use K24)
K20A2 Thermo housing
K20A2 Starter (no use K24)
K20A2 Oil pan, pump and chain guide
K20A2 oil cooler (no need, K24A3 already have)
K20A2 water pump (no use K24 because is smaller)
K20A2 Starter (no use K24)
S2000 joint cooler,p art # 11107-pt2-000 (no need for fit oil cooler because K24A3 already have)
K20A2 Crank baffle (this? http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGxXekyIp9SQIvWqW6GFCXjVKLr6ZsU4Uakyk34h119y2o3QIB&t=1
if i put k20a2 oil pump i need put also his crank baffle? i cannot fit the pump with no crank baffle or
K24 crank baffle?)
No need to change anything on the K24A3. Just leave it stock for now.


NUMBER 4=WATER PUMP AND OIL COOLER tell me please if what i write is correct or not. write OK or NOT OK and what u suggest
We already said that K24A3 have oil cooler, so no neeb work on it.
It's better fit K20A2 water pump because is bigger than K24A3.
After that remains only to connect the two hoses.
Water pump and hoses fit bolt on
I would use the K24A3 water pump :up:


NUMBER 5=OIL PUMP
take out K24 oil pump

modify and fit k20a2 oil pump, k20a2 chain and chain tensioner



Important: with k20a2 oil pump, tapping oil orifice.
WHY ON MY FIRST POST SAY TAPPING ONLY ONE AND ONLY THAT OIL OREFICE



BUT HERE SAY TAPPING TWO OIL OREFICES? CAN U READ AND EXPLAIN ME? maybe because he do another kind of modify? LOOK
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/...azine.com/tech/htup_0511_k24_engine_block_k20_cylinder_head_build/photo_04.html



how many and which oil orefice i need to tap?
Only 1 orifice. When you take off the K24 oil pump, and put on the K20 oil pump you will see. It is very easy to see :up:


NUMBER 6= CRANK BUFFLE
Tell me everything about it please. I don’t know what is it. I only know it need from K20A2
Don't worry about this. If you can fit it with the K20 oil pump then keep it. If no, then don't use it. :up:


NUMBER 7= CRANK PULLEY
Need K20A2 one, right? Which tensioner I use?
Use the K24A3 crank pulley. K24 tensioner :up:


NUMBER 8= EXHAUST HEADERS HONDA CIVIC HB 93
any headers for Kswap are good?
Shipping from USA to Italy will be very expensive. I recommend buying a good header 1 time, and not buying a cheap header now and a good header later. ASP and SSR make good headers :up:
http://advancedstreetperformance.com/
http://www.sixsigmaracing.com/headers.htm


NUMBER 12A=AXELS
Which ones?
-hybrid racing K swap axels? other brands?
-external joint Bserie; axle K20/K24; internal joint K24/20 (if K24 int.shaft/if K20 int.shaft; OR INTERNAL K20 JOINT IS SAME K24?)
I say this "hybridation" because here in italy, we have civic hb 93, with k20a engine. The owner sais that only with Hasport mounts the best axels are: external joint from Bserie,axle, internale joint and int. shaft from K serie (dc5).
With this setup it run over 30.000km and no any trouble. With hybrid racing mounts, this combination NO WORK
Do you use the Hasport engine mounts? If you use Hasport mounts you can use 'hybridation' mounts with B-series external joint and DC5 internal.
You can also use DSS 2.9
http://hasport.com/store/index.php/accessories/axles/kax.html
http://www.driveshaftshop.com/


NUMBER 13=POWER STERRING
im in doubt about put an electric power sterring pump.
Example: K20A from DC5 has a mechanic p/s pump. The problem when we fit the motor inside the civic hb, is that the pulley hit on the hood. For clear the problem we have two ways:
1- put an electric p/s pump
2- put an Adjustable Pulley Kit, same this but for K24 (i never look if is on sale on the web swap shop). What do u think?
(http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=142)
You can use the K-tuned product if you do not want power steering :up:


NUMBER 16=HP AND TORQUE
With this simple set up of only OEM parts, which values I can reach?

Power will depend on a lot of things. If you have a good header, and good tuner for K-pro ECU then maybe 230 WHP, 175 WTQ. With good camshaft more power. With ITB more power. For beginning engine, I say keep it simple

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

thanks again. as usually when i finish work and i came back home i update first post. now im in toilet for break time ..lol

signalpuke why u know so much about this argument? u already do in your car or u eat bread,jam and k series for breakfast every day?

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Yeah, built one a few years ago. It is in a turbo prelude now

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

I no want boring u, but i need quote again this list.
You say just leave stock for now, so for soft setup i no need to change anything. Now i would understand which parts never need to buy, and which parts are necessary for upgrade or because they work better.
Look what i mark on the list, and if u know, finish to complete it

NUMBER 3=OTHER COMPONENTS

K20A2 Crank Pulley ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Alternator ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Thermo housing ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Starter ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Oil pan, pump and chain guide ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 oil cooler ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 water pump ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTE
K20A2 Starter ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Crank baffle ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Is this for a race car? Circuit racing? Or for a street car?

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

daily car and circuit car 1 or 2 times in a month :up:
no competition, only track day with my friends

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Just leave the motor stock.
Get the K20A/A2 oil pump. :up:
Use a nice aluminum radiator, like Koyo :up:
Good synthetic oil :up:

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

yes i think same.

So:
K20A2 Crank Pulley ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Alternator ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Thermo housing ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Starter ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Oil pan, pump and chain guide ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 oil cooler ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 water pump ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTE
K20A2 Starter ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER
K20A2 Crank baffle ---> NEVER NEED/NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER

is correct?
*********************
-u posted the link ,but for know now quickly, can i take K24A3 stock wiring that came with engine and then i start to modify it?
-can u tell me please the name of K24A3 ECU?
-with stock k20a2 head,do u remember when i need to set the RPM rev limit?
Or when i take the kpro to program, the man know which is the best rpm rev limit?
-if i want reach 8200-8500 rpm what i need to change? only camshaft or more? Good camshaft that are the best way between price and power?

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

yes i think same.

So:
K20A2 Crank Pulley ---> NEVER NEED
K20A2 Alternator ---> NEVER NEED
K20A2 Thermo housing ---> NEVER NEED
K20A2 Starter ---> NEVER NEED
K20A2 Oil pan, pump and chain guide ---> NEED FOR IMPROVE-IS BETTER K20A/A2 oil pump
K20A2 oil cooler ---> NEVER NEED
K20A2 water pump ---> NEVER NEED
K20A2 Starter ---> NEVER NEED
K20A2 Crank baffle ---> this is in the oil pan. You can use the K20A2 oil pan, and a K20A2 baffle :up:

is correct?
*********************
-u posted the link ,but for know now quickly, can i take K24A3 stock wiring that came with engine and then i start to modify it?
-can u tell me please the name of K24A3 ECU?
-with stock k20a2 head,do u remember when i need to set the RPM rev limit?
Or when i take the kpro to program, the man know which is the best rpm rev limit?
-if i want reach 8200-8500 rpm what i need to change? only camshaft or more? Good camshaft that are the best way between price and power?

Yeah, you will need a good header/exhaust. 70-80mm exhaust on car, like for turbo engine.

Cams are good too. IPS KME cams :up: Great power for stock motor :up:

Get K20 intake gear, VTC system :up:

I don't know about the ECU from the K24A3. Is it in this list:
http://www.hondata.com/ecus.html

Wiring you might need K20 engine wire harness. Ask hondata, or hondata dealer in Italy, maybe they know?

Throttle body on the engine? Is it cable, like B-series engine, or electronic like new 2006 Civic?

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Yeah, you will need a good header/exhaust . 70-80mm exhaust on car, like for turbo engine.
:wow: i need to order new one and say bye bye to N1 muffler My midsection is about 63mm

Cams are good too. IPS KME cams :up: Great power for stock motor :up:
thanks, no need change springs and drivetrain, great!

Get K20 intake gear, VTC system :up:
-K20 intake gear only if i buy IPS KME camshaft or any aftermarket camshaft? if i use the stock camshaft, i need or not get k20 gear/gears?
-only intake or also exhaust?

Wiring you might need K20 engine wire harness. Ask hondata, or hondata dealer in Italy, maybe they know?
im looking for, but i think same u about the good one is from EP3. But i put Kpro on k20a2 ecu or k24a2 ecu?
For EP3 EUDM the name of ECU is PRA (K20a2)

Throttle body on the engine? Is it cable, like B-series engine, or electronic like new 2006 Civic?
im looking for, but i think is electronic, need check

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Yeah, you will need a good header/exhaust . 70-80mm exhaust on car, like for turbo engine.
:wow: i need to order new one and say bye bye to N1 muffler My midsection is about 63mm

Cams are good too. IPS KME cams :up: Great power for stock motor :up:
thanks, no need change springs and drivetrain, great!

Get K20 intake gear, VTC system :up:
-K20 intake gear only if i buy IPS KME camshaft or any aftermarket camshaft? if i use the stock camshaft, i need or not get k20 gear/gears?
-only intake or also exhaust?

Wiring you might need K20 engine wire harness. Ask hondata, or hondata dealer in Italy, maybe they know?
im looking for, but i think same u about the good one is from EP3. But i put Kpro on k20a2 ecu or k24a2 ecu?
For EP3 EUDM the name of ECU is PRA (K20a2)

Throttle body on the engine? Is it cable, like B-series engine, or electronic like new 2006 Civic?
im looking for, but i think is electronic, need check

yes, you will need new valve springs with those cams. You can buy that (cams and valve springs) later though, after you get the motor in the car and running :up:

Regarding the VTC, it is only the intake gear. It will be good with any cam :up:

You can only use the ECUs listed here
http://www.hondata.com/ecus.html
So, EP3 EUDM PRA will work, but, it does not have a wideband oxygen sensor nor support for nitrous. The USDM ECU is better. :up:

Don't take anything out.

2 steps...

Buy complete engine and transmission, mounts, wiring , and kpro.
Install in car.

:up: you're confusing yourself pointlessly.

Agreed :up:

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

The throttle body should be drive by wire, so he will need a cable throttle body.

When you engine shop just buy a complete engine. Believe me it's much easier, I bought just a bottom end and spend so far $500 in parts that were not there and nuts and bolts.

Keep it simple, complete engines come with everything except a starter and alternator.

Then buy the k20a2 oil pump, baffle, oil chain guide, oil chain tensioner. Standard k20 and k24 chain did NOT work for me on a k24a1 which has the flat deck on the lower cradle.

If the k24a3 lower cradle is identical to the k24a2 then the standard k20a2 chain should work, if it has a flat deck then you will need the chain with pcx in the part number.

And IMO you should go with an rsx type s ecu and kpro just to be safe.

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

1***Maybe my friend have intake and exhaust cam gears, so i think to buy and install both.
i know u told to me about ONLY intake for VTC, but if i have also exhaust cam gear K20 is better or no change nothing else?

Then buy the k20a2 oil pump, baffle, oil chain guide, oil chain tensioner. Standard k20 and k24 chain did NOT work for me on a k24a1 which has the flat deck on the lower cradle.
If the k24a3 lower cradle is identical to the k24a2 then the standard k20a2 chain should work, if it has a flat deck then you will need the chain with pcx in the part number.

2***anyone can confirm that?
signalpuke,do u know or remember if the k24a3 lower cradle is identical to the k24a2?

3***For find the right o2 sensor i need to look:
which engine i have? --> which ecu can works with engine?-->which o2 sensor works with ecu?
is correct? sorry if i write something crazy but i dontk know nothing about ecu,wiring and senors

And IMO you should go with an rsx type s ecu and kpro just to be safe.

So, EP3 EUDM PRA will work, but, it does not have a wideband oxygen sensor nor support for nitrous. The USDM ECU is better.

4***First of all, i find that Hondata doesn't support ecu of K24A3 EUDM
http://www.hondata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8227&sid=6bb4647516ac4df02b0931c5e24cc337
and second i dont need nitrous.

5***Both prefer ecu usdm rsx type S, but i want move in this way, tell me what do u think:
-look for rsx type s ecu and ep3 ecu
-if the price difference is low, i buy rsx ecu
-if price difference is high and rsx type s ecu is so much expensive, i will buy ep3 ecu (my friend has already got kpro and he buy the wideband, so he can borrow it to me)

6***everybody speak about Kpro. What about K100? Big differences? Or i can also buy it for save some money? (it's cheaper than kpro)

7***for wiring harness if i no find ep3 wires, i will consider hybrid racing harness. i dont know if is plug&play, but maybe the big part of work is already done.........................

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

:worship: :worship: :worship:

Thanks, u with and Signalpuke are the men of providence :up:
Sure, i buy a complete engine for no have many trouble later

Tomorrow i update first post with ur info and also i want speak about K-swap package (what is ok and what i can take out)

see u tomorrow.
Goodnight :up::up::up:

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Don't take anything out.

2 steps...

Buy complete engine and transmission, mounts, wiring , and kpro.
Install in car.

:up: you're confusing yourself pointlessly.

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

im happy to see new replies in my topic this morning
now i finish to drink my coffee.
ok i go work, see u in toilet break time at work by my mobile phont :silly::dance:
when i came back home i update the first post with new info:up:
thanks sir

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

i dont understand what differences are from k24 wires and k20 wires and why maybe is better start with second one. however i must modify same for fit on k24?
and with k24 i should buy also his o2sensor?

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

i dont understand what differences are from k24 wires and k20 wires and why maybe is better start with second one. however i must modify same for fit on k24?
and with k24 i should buy also his o2sensor?

The harness will match the ECU, that is usually the easiest way to make the swap work.

This way the ECU can talk to the engine sensors over native wiring path.

Most 'swap' harnesses are made for the K20 engine harness.

Best to ask your person that will do the wiring what they want to use.

I do not know if there are differences in the USDM/EUDM wiring

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

if i no find nothing i contact hondata and i let u know :up:

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

The K20 exhaust cam gear is the same as the K24, you don't need it.

I think the lower cradle is the same. If it is different it will not be a problem, you will still need to modify the oil pump to fit on the motor.

ECU: You can use any of the ECUs that are on Hondata's website, but if you use one of the USDM ECUs you will need a new o2 sensor (2002-2004 RSX-S).
If you use the EUDM PRA ECU from the 02-05 EUDM Civic, then you will use that o2 sensor.

You will need to use an adapter harness between the K24A3 engine wire harness, and your car dash wire harness.

Does Hondata still sell the K100 in Europe? I think only K-pro now.

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

for the oil pump i know need modify. i ask about cradle for know this:
k24 cradle = k20a cradle: i can use k20oil chain,k20tensioner and k20guides

k24 cradle NOT= k20a cradle: which oil chain i use? k24tensioner and k24guides


about k100 maybe yes,maybe used,i need to check

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

Look after you get the engine remOve the oil pan and see if the lower deck is flat.

If it's flat NO need to modify pump, just install and get the oil pump chain with pcx in the part number.

 

Re: first K24A3block+K20A2head from Italy. Be patient and help me step by step

IMPORTANT:
throttle body on k24 is electronic. for have it by cable i need just put a throttle body of k20? any adaptors or sensors for fit it?


COMPONENTS FOR FINISH THE SWAP
this is the list that i do time ago when im looking for K20A.
Is the list suitable also for K24? About some parts im in doubt.
could u help me or tell what u think about?

SWAP PACKAGE
shop
http://www.robearracing.com/pd-k-tuned-k-series-swap-package-civic-integra-k20k24.cfm

- K-Tuned wiring conversion harness $329.99 (MAYBE. only if i cannot do by my self and only if it fit on K24)
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=20&products_id=204

- Hasport Motor Mounts $499.99
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=44

- K-TUNED FUEL LINE kit yes or not?
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/index.php?cPath=18

- K20 EP3 Pulley Kit $159.99 if i no want p/s
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=142

- Shifter Mounting Kit $139.99 (with this i need dc5 or maybe accord shifter and cables)
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=184
or, option 2, buy one plug and play from hybrid racing

- Clutch Line Kit $89.99 yes or not?
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=185

- Throttle Calbe Kit w/ Billet Bracket $89.99 yes or not?
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=94

- Basic K-Swap Air Intake $189.99
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=136

- Driver Side Radiator Hose Kit $109.99
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=120

- Heater Hose Kit $49.99
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=2_28&products_id=158

- IACV Rotation plate $49.99 yes or not?
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=139

- Coolant Temp Sensor Adaptor $11.99
http://www.k-tuned.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=59[/