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Old 12-17-2006, 10:27 PM   #1
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Default The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

This is a comparison of every major sensor located on the Cylinder Head/Engine block of a K24/20. However, this is not just for the electrical sensors but anything that is used to actuate a particular engine function. I got the idea after listing the VTC sensor in a thread on here, All comparisons are done using the following vehicle models. RSX, RSX-S, TSX, Accord, CRV, Civic, Element. I am not including the DC5-R because they share so many commonalities with the RSX-S it would be pointless. The most common used parts will be BOLDED aswell as any of those common parts that match eachother. All emissions sensors are excluded as they are mostly particular to the specific vehicle throttle body.

Sensors/Valve Assemblys:

-Knock Sensor
Accord 04-07 Knock Sensor P/N: - 30530-PPL-A01
Civic 03-05 Knock Sensor P/N: - 30530-PPL-A01
CRV 03-07 Knock Sensor P/N: - 30530-PPL-A01
Element 03-07 Knock Sensor P/n: - 30530-PPL-A01
TSX 04-07 Knock Sensor P/N: - 30530-PPL-A01
RSX 02-06 Knock Sensor P/N: - 30530-PPL-A01
RSX-S 02-06 Knock Sensor P/N: - 30530-PRB-A01
Civic Si 06-07 Knock Sensor P/N: - 30530-PRC-003

-Crank Position Sensor
Accord 03-07 Crank Position Sensor P/N: - 37500-RAA-A01
Element 03-07 Crank Position Sensor P/N: - 37500-RAA-A01
TSX 04-07 Crank Position Sensor P/N: - 37500-RAA-A01
CRV 02-07 Crank Position Sensor P/N: - 37500-PNB-003
Civic 03-07 Crank Position Sensor P/N: - 37500-PNB-003
RSX-S 02-06 Crank Position Sensor P/N: - 37500-PNB-003
RSX 02-06 Crank Position Sensor P/N: - 37500-PNB-003
Civic Si 06-07 Crank Position Sensor P/N: - 37500-PNB-003

-Camshaft TDC sensor
Civic 02-07 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003
RSX 02-06 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003
RSX-S 02-06 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003
CRV 03-06 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003
CRV 07 ONLY Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003 <-Exhaust- // 37510-RAA-A01 <-Intake-
Accord 03-07 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003 <-Exhaust- // 37510-RAA-A01 <-Intake-
Element 03-07 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003 <-Exhaust- // 37510-RAA-A01 <-Intake-
TSX 04-07 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003 <-Exhaust- // 37510-RAA-A01 <-Intake-
Civic Si 06-07 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003 <-Exhaust- // 37510-RAA-A01 <-Intake-

-MAP Sensor
Accord 03-04 MAP Sensor P/N: - 37830-PGK-A01
CRV 02-04 MAP Sensor P/N: - 37830-PGK-A01
Civic 01-05 MAP Sensor P/N: - 37830-PGK-A01
RSX 02-04 MAP Sensor P/N: - 37830-PGK-A01
RSX-S 02-04 MAP Sensor P/N: - 37830-PGK-A01
RSX 02-04 MAP Sensor P/N: - 37830-PGK-A01
TSX 04-07 MAP Sensor P/N: - 37830-PGK-A01
Civic Si 06-07 MAP Sensor P/N: - 37830-PNC-003

-Water Temp. Sensor
Accord 03-07 Water Temp. Sensor P/N: - 37870-PNA-003
CRV 02-06 Water Temp. Sensor P/N: - 37870-PNA-003
Civic 03-07 Water Temp. Sensor P/N: - 37870-PNA-003
Element 03-07 Water Temp. Sensor P/N: - 37870-PNA-003
RSX 02-06 Water Temp. Sensor P/N: - 37870-PNA-003
RSX-S 02-06 Water Temp. Sensor P/N: - 37870-PNA-003
TSX 04-07 Water Temp. Sensor P/N: - 37870-PNA-003
Civic Si 06-07 Water Temp. Sensor P/N: - 37870-PNA-003

-VTC Spool valve assembly
Accord 03-05 VTC Spool Assembly P/N: - 15810-RAA-A01
CRV 03-05 VTC Spool Assembly P/N: - 15810-RAA-A01
Civic 03-05 VTC Spool Assembly P/N: - 15810-RAA-A01
Element 03-05 VTC Spool Assembly P/N: - 15810-RAA-A01
RSX 02-06 VTC Spool Assembly P/N: - 15810-RAA-A01
RSX-S 02-06 VTC Spool Assembly P/N: - 15810-PRB-A01
TSX 04-05 VTC Spool Assembly P/N: - 15810-PRB-A01
Civic Si 06-07 VTC Spool Assembly P/N: - 15810-PRB-A03

-VTC Oil Control Valve Assembly
Accord 03-07 VTC Oil Control Assembly P/N: - 15830-RAA-A01
Element 03-07 VTC Oil Control Assembly P/N: - 15830-RAA-A01
CRV 03-05 VTC Oil Control Assembly P/N: - 15830-PNC-003
Civic 03-05 VTC Oil Control Assembly P/N: - 15830-PNC-003
RSX-S 02-04 VTC Oil Control Assembly P/N: - 15830-PNC-003
RSX 02-04 VTC Oil Control Assembly P/N: - 15830-PNC-003
TSX 04-07 VTC Oil Control Assembly P/N: - 15830-RBB-003 (same as 05-06 RSX-S)
Civic Si 06-07 VTC Oil Control Assembly P/N: - 15830-RBB-003

-Timing Chain Tensioner
02-07 CRV - 14510-PNA-003 (K24A1 and K24Z1)
03-05 Civic Si - 14510-PNA-003 (K20A3)
03-07 Accord - 14510-PNA-003 (K24A4 and K24A8)
02-06 RSX Base - 14510-PNA-003 (K20A3)
03-07 Element - 14510-RAA-A01 (K24A4)
02-06 RSX-S - 14510-PRB-A01 (K20A2 and K20Z1)
04-07 TSX - 14510-PRB-A01 (K24A2)
06-07 Civic Si - 14510-PRB-A01 (K20Z3)
07 Acura RDX - 14510-RWC-A01 (K23A1, Turbo)

I was bored, and it helps if you're buying things that may or may not be missing one of these. Now you know what to ask for/what to look for

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Edit: Added 06-07 Civic Si thanks to civicmexicano.
Edit: Added Timing Chain Tensioners (7/02/07)
Edit: Added updated Camshaft TDC sensors thanks to BlackEgk20a & Scourge. (11/11/07)
Edit: Added 07 ONLY CRV Camshaft TDC sensor update, Discovered myself while doing the other updates. (11/11/07)
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:56 PM   #2
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Default Re: The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

So what this is saying is that on the k24/k20 swap, the sensors in bold are the only sensors that will function with a K20A2 engine harness and read correctly? Or unless you have the oppostite connector from the OEM harness you are using the sensor from?
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Default Re: The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

Basically? Yes. The bolded sensors are what is KNOWN to work with an RSX-S harness and the unbolded things need to either be re-pinned to work or have a plug switched out from the stock harness. The VTC Spool valve and Oil Control Valve however I am unsure of, If anyone can clear it up that would be fantastic.
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Default Re: The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

if you have more time, do a pricing too hehe
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Default Re: The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

All you have to do is copy the part number and go look it up :P I'm not even that lazy and the prices make it look all jumbled up.
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can we get this as a sticky
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How about TPS sensors?
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Default Re: The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

TPS Sensors are not sold individually by Honda/Acura. They are outsourced by Keihin and would need to bought in extreme bulk quantities(500+) to be sold individually.
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But would they be interchangable? If so, which ones work on which throttle bodies and which dont?

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Default Re: The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

Accord/CRV are interchangeable to the best of my knowledge, RSX-S is alone...unsure if anything else matches up to it.
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So for those of us doing either k24/k20 swaps or K24a2 tsx swaps into our dc/eg/ek/etc chassis we need the 37500-PNB-003 crank sensor out of a Type-S which is like $55 from hondapartsdeals.com?? If so, are there any alternatives to using the existing sensor already in my motor?
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Default Re: The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

If you have part of the stock TSX harness you can Repin/Re-splice the TSX CPS plug onto the RSX-S harness and use it that way, then you can retain the stock TSX CPS. That seems to be the norm.
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Other than the TSX CPS, can the A1/A3/A4 CPS be used the same way?
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Default Re: The Definitive K20/24 Sensor Comparison.

Yes. Minus the K24A1 CPS, as it is identical to the RSX-S CPS and requires no modifications to work with an RSX-S harness :P
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TSX 04-07 Camshaft TDC Sensor P/N: - 37510-PNB-003
someone asked me about a VTC phase gap error using a TSX head with a 50° VTC gear. I noticed on acuraparts247.com that the TSX head actually has a different TDC sensor on the intake cam -- 37510-RAA-A01. in this situation, does it need to be swapped for another "PNB" sensor?
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Unsure exactly, but it would make sense if indeed it is a completly diffrent sensor.
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he said it's visually different, and swapped it out with one from a K20A3. but we figured out that his timing chain is off by 1/2 a link so the verdict is still out about the different TSX sensor
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