good stuff!!!

 

u can also use a full b series axle on the passenger side with a k swap

 

u can also use a full b series axle on the passenger side with a k swap

i just broke my flippin axle. i have a bseries laying around. i was wondering what i have to do to make that work. does it just bolt up or do i have to swap parts from a dc5

 

u can also use a full b series axle on the passenger side with a k swap

No you cannot. The stock B-series driver side axle is about 1/2"-3/4" too short to use on the passenger side, it is slightly stretched. As I said in the first post, in the relaxed state, the bearings in the hub on a B-series axle are too close to the edge already to the point where you can feel them through the boot - so you definately do not want to stretch it more. I will post measurements and pics tomorrow.

 

very helpful :up: will do this as my spare axles :up:

 

Nice post! How do you guys feel about the "swap hubs" so that you can replace your stock hubs and run type-s axles? I have herd nothing but good things from the few people who have run them and ordered a set awhile back. I have pics on the last page of my swap thread. Thanks!

 

Nice post! How do you guys feel about the "swap hubs" so that you can replace your stock hubs and run type-s axles? I have herd nothing but good things from the few people who have run them and ordered a set awhile back. I have pics on the last page of my swap thread. Thanks!

I'm not sure what you mean, but the problem with RSX-S axles is that they are not readily available at an inexpensive price like the B/D-series axles (which can be had from Napa for under $40-$70/ea). Also, in our specific situation, if on the off chance that we did break an axle at the track (and we didn't have any spares), we'd be able to goto the local parts store and pick up a standard axle that most auto parts stores almost ALWAYS have in stock.

Acura dealerships may not have RSX-S axles in stock, and if they did, have fun with your wallet. Aftermarket axles are expensive and if you had to order them, well... you'd get them at the soonest if you shipped them overnight. I'm sure you get the point...

 

so what would i need to make a hybrid passenger side axle.

 

I'm not sure what you mean, but the problem with RSX-S axles is that they are not readily available at an inexpensive price like the B/D-series axles (which can be had from Napa for under $40-$70/ea). Also, in our specific situation, if on the off chance that we did break an axle at the track (and we didn't have any spares), we'd be able to goto the local parts store and pick up a standard axle that most auto parts stores almost ALWAYS have in stock.

Acura dealerships may not have RSX-S axles in stock, and if they did, have fun with your wallet. Aftermarket axles are expensive and if you had to order them, well... you'd get them at the soonest if you shipped them overnight. I'm sure you get the point...

The reason I went with the hubs is I figured a type-s axle would be stronger since I had herd of certain dss's breaking and that the oem's are real strong. I also figured I could just get the axles from salvage if I did need a new set for some reason. I was mainly concerned with length etc and wondering for those of us with the hubs if the type-s axles would pop out time to time and if you knew if the type-s axles were the right length.

 

How long have you been driving on these axles? ARe you using d series shafts on both sides?

 

I am curious as to why you would use axles that are from a SOHC rated for 150-160HP?? with a K swap..They look so tiny.. How long do you expect them to last? Its cheaper year, but I feel you will be changing axles a few times a week..

 

Great write up!!!

What did you do for your passenger side?

 

I am curious as to why you would use axles that are from a SOHC rated for 150-160HP?? with a K swap..They look so tiny.. How long do you expect them to last? Its cheaper year, but I feel you will be changing axles a few times a week..

They will hold up I'm sure. Axles usually break when people pop the clutch or slap all power instantly on the axles, rather than a "hard push".

Of course I'm referring to drag racing.

One of my good friends has an ls/vtec turbo 860 whp civic still running factory B series axles.

 

They will hold up I'm sure. Axles usually break when people pop the clutch or slap all power instantly on the axles, rather than a "hard push".

Of course I'm referring to drag racing.

One of my good friends has an ls/vtec turbo 860 whp civic still running factory B series axles.

Well yeah.. They may hold up on the road just normal driving, but I guess im referring to taking to the track.. You wont be able to get a good launch from fear of axles.. B Series are thicker though so I can slightly understand using those axles.. I know of someone running 10's on OEM B series Axles though so I know its possible.

 

I am curious as to why you would use axles that are from a SOHC rated for 150-160HP?? with a K swap..They look so tiny.. How long do you expect them to last? Its cheaper year, but I feel you will be changing axles a few times a week..

Again, I didn't want to turn this thread into another debate as to which axles will work or not and which are stronger.

But to answer your question, the d-series pass. side axle is only 1/16" smaller in diameter than B/K-series axles (driverside - the long one; is the same diameter as B/K). The actual bosses that the hub bearings ride on, however are smaller in diameter on the D-series as compared to B and K. However! If you want stronger inner hub components, the B and K series bearing boss will fit on the D-series shaft splines! They are all interchangable.

 

so what would i need to make a hybrid passenger side axle.

We are still working on a simple and inexpensive solution to this. However, I can assure you, that the stock B-series driverside axles is too short to use on the passengerside.

We currently use a DC5R passenger side axle on our race car. It works just fine, however if compared to the D-series on the driverside, the DC5R is about 1/4" shorter when you fully compress it back into the hub. Not bad, it works...but could be better. And again, DC5R axles are hard to come by and expensive. Keep in mind DC5R axles are about 10mm LONGER than the DC5 base and DC5S and IMO, are still about 1/4" short of "perfect".

 

How long have you been driving on these axles? ARe you using d series shafts on both sides?

Track only car - milage unknown. And no, D-series only on the driverside.

 

not sure if you have seen this or not

http://www.theksource.com/news/04/how-to-make-your-own-axles-for-eg-k-hybrids/

 

not sure if you have seen this or not

http://www.theksource.com/news/04/how-to-make-your-own-axles-for-eg-k-hybrids/

No, I haven't seen that... but again, K series axles are ungodly expensive from the dealer, and hard to come by from other sources.

Almost everyone has spare B/D series axles lying around and if not, they can be purchased for $40-$70 at your local auto store.

 

We should make more threads like this....:up:

 

No, I haven't seen that... but again, K series axles are ungodly expensive from the dealer, and hard to come by from other sources.

Almost everyone has spare B/D series axles lying around and if not, they can be purchased for $40-$70 at your local auto store.

You can get a set of low mileage RSX-S axles right here on K20a.org for under $150. All you need then is some B-series outers and you have a perfect matching set. This is however good to know if I ever break and axle on my driver side as my stock D-series axles will simply be laying around doing nothing after the swap. :up:

Edit: Wait a second, You can put a RSX-S/R or RSX Base inner onto a D-series shaft? Does this mean I can use D-series(from a D16Z6) outers on my RSX-S axles?

 

Edit: Wait a second, You can put a RSX-S/R or RSX Base inner onto a D-series shaft? Does this mean I can use D-series(from a D16Z6) outers on my RSX-S axles?

Yes... I will verify this in a few hours for you.

 

Yes... I will verify this in a few hours for you.

I friggen love you. Seriously.

 

man good thread. very informative. ill definately be makin me some hybrid axles now. now if i can just find some forsale for cheap

 

I friggen love you. Seriously.

haha..

any updates C-Speed?