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K20a.org FS/FT Rules. A MUST READ BEFORE BUYING & SELLING. FAIL 2 READ=DELETED THREAD

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K20a.org FS/FT Rules. A MUST READ BEFORE BUYING & SELLING. FAIL 2 READ=DELETED THREAD

K20a.org members please read.

When creating a For Sale Thread please keep in mind the pictures you attach serve you and the potential buyer. The attachment pictures help prove the actual condition of the part/parts before shipping takes place, think of it as personal insurance and proof if a case needs to be proved. The seller can use pictures to assist in instilling confidence in the potential buyer. We suggest taking and using the best pictures you possibly can.

1. ANY ITEM SOLD FOR $100 OR MORE REQUIRES CARD WITH USER NAME & DATE INSIDE THE PICTURE
It's very simple. Threads without this info will be deleted no questions asked..
1A. It is a good idea to have a name card with any item you are selling. Scamming is on an all time high these days. We are working diligently to offer a safe place to sell.

2. ALL ECU SALES MUST PROVIDE A PIC OF INSIDE THE CASE!
Regardless if the ECU has Hondata on it or not, it will require a picture of the internals, showing the label on the inside and to make sure the internals are in good condition and not fried in any way, along with a card with your name and date showing as well. We ask of you to provide pictures of the pin section to verify the condition, as well as pictures of the serial number, part number, and/or identifiable information. Failurer to do so will result in thread deletion no questions asked.

All piggy pack ECU types need to show internals with serial number. All stand alone ECU's just need to show case front and backside as well as the pin section outside to see if there is any case damage (incl. Serial number).

2. All For Sale Threads regarding Factory (OEM) ECU's will require the following :
(A) pictures of the outside and the inside with name & date card present in photo (B) pictures of the serial number & identifying labels (C) pictures of the pin pattern section & condition of the pin section. Please do your best to include the name card & date in each photo.

If Kpro is installed, the requirements are the same as selling an unmodified factory (OEM) ECU. Please post pictures of the inside of the ECU to show Kpro is installed and the pictures show the inside of the ECU is not damaged, fried, and/or the condition is compromised. Please do your best to include the name & date card in each photo.

2A. All For Sale Threads regarding Stand Alone ECU's will require the following : (A) pictures of the case front and back with name & date card included (B) pictures of the serial number & identifying labels (C) pictures of the pin pattern section & condition. Please do your best to include the name & date card in each photo.


3. ALL FOR SALE THREADS MUST HAVE A PRICE POSTED, OBO, OR FIRM. Doesn't matter which one, but must have a price posted. Testing waters, make offers, or no price posted threads will be locked or deleted promptly. If you are looking for advice on the value of an item please search online.

4. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE 10 THREADS FOR 10 INDIVIDUAL ITEMS.
Make one thread and include all your parts for sale in that one thread. This way when bumping your for sale thread(s), an entire page of new posts won't be full of just one person's for sale threads. Just edit the first post of the existing for sale thread to add on new items for sale and contact a mod to edit the title of the existing for sale thread and we'll be happy to change it up for you.

This applies to multiple threads in one section only, i.e. 4 threads in parts for sale section can be combined into one. Motor/swaps should be in motor/swaps for sale and cars for sale should be in cars for sale

5. THREAD NOW, PICS LATER & "WILL POST TO SERIOUS BUYERS" IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
If you do not have pics a the moment, do not submit a thread selling it. No need to "give a heads up". Waiting a few hours till the pics are available will not hurt.

6. PROVIDING "FOR SALE" LINKS OUTSIDE OF THE CLASSIFIED SECTION IS PROHIBITED.
Do not post links to other sites where you have listed your item(s) for sale. (i.e. eBay, Craigslist, other forums, etc.). This creates security issues and suggests to others not to read the rules we provide here.

7. DON'T POST ANY 3rd PARTY EMAIL's.
We have to assume PayPal cheating, which happend here in some cases, which was based on exactly this approach. This is defined as posting links to your or others emails and or other suggestion to bypass following the rules. In order to sell on K20a.org one has to register and follow the rules, simple. Those that do this are being watched.

8. The classified section is not for business, dealers, or get off the ground businesses
If you are making parts and items you cannot sell in the classified section. A one time sell we will permit, however we are closely watching that. If the rules are followed the thread will be deleted and the seller will be flagged by staff to eliminate a repeat offense. We offer a service here to aid in people selling used parts left over from builds, new parts not able to be used by the seller, in general this is simple and obvious to us. We have a section for dealers and parts creators that can subscribe to with certain guidelines to follow. The playing field has to be kept level and consistent. Sellers attempting to promote their business by sending PM's to users for sales are being asked to be reported to staff, this is bypassing the rules set here.

ALL FOR SALE THREADS MAY TAKE UP TO 24 HOURS TO APPEAR OR NEVER IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES

USERS WITH LESS THAN 100 POSTS ARE NOT ABLE TO SELL ANYTHING *

Doesn't mean to whore the site with posts neither to reach the minimum to sell something. Nonsense posts caught in an attempt to reach the minimum to sell will be deleted.

While activity on the site is slower than usual, we are allowing active site participants to post for sale items with less than 100 posts. However, we are paying close attention to this. If the user registers solely to sell and not participate constructively, the for sale post will be removed to clear the way for others with more than 100 posts to sell on the front page. Again we are paying close attention to this as a trial and test to the integrity of the new user. Simply the post will be removed with a PM message as to why. As times change, we reserve the right to revoke the privilege to sell without 100 posts. This is a privilege and gift from us.

* Currently a new member must have 10 posts in order to create a For Sale add, until further notice.

K20A.ORG SUPPORTERS CAN POST PARTS FOR SALE WITHOUT POST COUNT RESTRICTION

Some helpful tips for buying and selling

SELLERS: Do you really expect to sell your parts without pictures?

If a buyer was smart, he/she wouldn't buy something without seeing pictures.

With that being said.

If the seller was motivated to sell, he/she would put up pictures.

Now, I love these excuses, My camera is broken, my mom has my digi, my boy broke it, my dog pisssed on it. Seriously?! This is 2010...Your dog proabably has its own camera.

My favorite, I don't know how to post pictures. COME ON, the internet has been around for like 15yrs. My grandmother can post pictures by now.

So if you can't get pictures don't post until you can. Its that easy.


This is how I look at it. If you are not willing to make the effort to take a picture, then you are even less motivated to ship my item asap after I pay.

Good luck selling.

BUYERS:
DO NOT PURCHASE FROM ANYONE WHO PM'S YOU AT RANDOM AND EITHER HAS NO POST COUNT, IS A BRAND NEW MEMBER, OR DOESN'T HAVE ANY THREADS OR POSTS OF ITEM FOR SALE NOR CANNOT PRODUCE PICS OF THE ITEM. THIS IS SELF EXPLANATORY. DON'T BE A VICTIM

Below are a few links that may be helpful before and after an item is purchased.

Potential Scammers: Please Read First

()()()()() How To File a PayPal Claim ()()()()()

Official Vouches and Feedback Thread

Last but not least, by creating a FS thread, you agree to the Terms of Use below.. Make sure you read before you buy and sell.


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Re: K20a.org FS/FT Rules. A MUST READ BEFORE BUYING & SELLING

READ & FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE PARTS FOR SALE SECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From here on out, threads/posts will no longer be merged, edited, or whatever. If ur thread does not follow the rules, the thread will be deleted, NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!
 
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