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...That is why stiff ramps on old Skunk2 cams were so harsh on tensioners
Yes deibral, that's a good point. Drag Cartel's profile technique is different as S2, TODA and that stuff. They have a more flat opening ramp, therefore they have great max VTC potential on short stroke engines, but their closing ramp is steeper than other stuff. This is good for high speed engines, as the closing ramp gradient get's more significant, but increase the forces on the keepers, valve seat wear and spring damping effort, but is very smooth to the tensioner, as this guy seats on the pull side of the timing chain.

DC 3.2 or Elite have higher lifts.
Not to say a questionable high lift.

They are maybe less stiff byt you have significant VTEC kick on those cams
The bigger the difference between low and high speed lobes, the bigger the torque, noise and handling difference. It's always a compromise between idle roughness, smoothness in VTEC transition and high end performance. DC has a special interpretation of doing that compromise :D.

Next 2 weeks I should have comparison of TODA D and DC Elite from my dyno on the same engine. But just right know I can say that VTEC crossover is like 400-600rpm higher on DC Elite what shortens effective high torque range on K24 engine much. However DC Elite may give like 5-10HP more on the top.
Great, I am looking forward to it. I don't believe DC's Enduro camshaft will make more power than the TODA D. In that case you need bigger intake ports to give the shorter duration but higher lift cams a chance to produce an higher VE than the TODA D (267 °ca of TODA D vs. 257 °ca of DC EE). I am curious what your engine will tell us about it.

Markus
 
all this talk about the toda a3 cam makes me want to get a set!
it appears to have all the qualities i desire, good idle, reliability, and a great torque curve at relatively low rpms

anyone selling a used set?
That's pretty tricky to get hands on a used set, cause in Europe they just sell in like 15 minutes after apearing on forum auctions.
 
I think you should set that list with him the day he is buying them not selling :D
LOL :D

They seem to be 1394 USD a pair.
Wow, that's a good price (they are placed already in CA, means incl. tax and custom fees?). My price was higher, but got them in between two weeks. Normally you have to wait around 2-3 month as they were produced only by order.

Markus
 
After closer inspection why i droped a valve running 3.2's, is at 8400 rpm piston rock coused my valves to tap on side of piston pockets. All 3 pistons that were left intact had marks from valves. It was a stock 04 tsx block stock k20a2 head, supertech springs/retainers. The solution would be to run aftermarket pistons with wider pockets, or lower rpm limit so there less piston rocking. Surprisingly all rod bearings were pretty healthy on the weaker 04 tsx block from 3 years of hard abuse at 120xxx mi.
 
here is my results of DC 3.2 cams from k24/20 swap with Supertech 12.5 Cr,supertech valvetrain,type S oil pump.i am limited with my headers and exhaust as no header fit my Honda Fit(JDM).i has so little space in hood and down.we are talking about milimeter gaps here.Engine has good compression in all cylenders 230.but limited with header and exhaust.currently i am using FD2 4-2-1 headers.i have orderd exhaust cutout and will post again with dyno and new tune.
so its 250 whp and 190 Ft-lb, rev limit 8500 prm.i havt any issues like user avove described.max VTC at 40
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Video of a race with stock 350Z.in this video i have Kakimoto Mufler and resonator installed.so it sounds like a superbike now:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfOju0bFMDY
Talk about tight space
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