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Review of AMR Coilovers for Civic SI 06~08

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#1 ·
This a independent review of the AMR coilover for Civic SI

I have been using a couple of types of coilovers, and broke a few or leaks, not going to name brands, but 1 is Jap, another is Taiwanese brand. After the last coilover going bust on me, I decided to source another brand for my ride.

After some research and reading reviews on the web, I decided to give a try with AMR Engineering. I email to them stating my usage for the car and also ask for some advice, and they help me with it. I'm not going to repeat what questions I ask, but those questions is just to make sure they know what they are doing and not just trying to sell.. I'm not going to buy shocks from a company that only say, without knowing the real technical specifications and how to go about recommending a proper shocks for certain use. And I meet alot of those salesmen in the past ;p. Once confirm, I send my payment over.

And to my surprise, the price is cheap, considering that they are customised.
Well,, not going to state the price.. (I bet AMR will post the price here though after they see this in this review lol)

The leadtime specify to me is 6~8 weeks, but guys, get prepared to wait for about 6~9 months for the shocks. Mine took 9 months... lol.. They are custom made and custom valved... = long wait. I personally don't mind to wait as I'm more concerned with quality and performance than the leadtime. But anyone that need shocks fast, forget about it, or get a low cost shocks to use while you wait.. I would recommend you to order early before your shocks give way... lol...

During the wait, I keep pestering andrew or Andy about the coilovers.. can't remember which..lol.. They will answer your enquires prompty and update you on the status, but give them a ring or email them. posting on forum doesn't really works. lol..

And they were honest enough to tell me that they make a mistake on the making of my coilovers... They make a mistake on my car model..., and I will have a delay because they need to redo a new set for me. and even send me pictures.. No dealers I deal with before were honest to this level.. lol...

Ok, finally the coilovers arrived. I have took pictures of the set, and will update the performance measurement on the track before I continue part 2... On to the installation

Oh, the pictures specks are due to the cardboard particles from the packing.

But the quality is great.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Specks are from cardboard particles.

top of the fronts shocks. Look at the machining quality..
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Welding edge of the front shocks. Thick and Even with no cauliflower..
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Nice workmanship of the spring holder
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mounting of the front shocks (Very good machining work)
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Whole piece
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Damn... 14mmm piston rod
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58mm Pistons.. god they are big..
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Rear shocks
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Rear Springs (hypercoil)
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Holder
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Holder
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#5 ·
these look real good, isnt there a custom valving application also?
 
#7 ·
i can't be happier with my custom AMR coilovers for the EG chassis.
There is no other way of saying it, they look good but most important they deliver at the track and the valving makes them 100% streetables.
They level of chraftmanship is amazing.
 
#8 ·
That lil SI/Type R of yours is a beast man haha. First the IPS shortblock, now the custom suspension. This thing is going to be a beast.

I remember seeing you were from singapore, Im out here doing some work. I would love a ride in this thing sometime if you don't mind :up:
 
#10 ·
Looks like we dont have much time!
My local handphone number is 6584552747, sms me or something. I work 6 days a week though, and I got a date this weekend already haha :up:. Maybe next weekend if it works out for you? Im staying in changi village. Would be cool to meet up and chat.
 
#11 ·
Thanks for taking the time to post a lil review as well as take some nice pictures for everyone. You have been such a pleasure to deal with, and I thank you for giving me the time to put this set together for you. Again my apologies for making the mistake that extended the leadtime of your coilovers. I'm glad you waited for me to come back from the Philippines to put this set together for you. I've put together all the coilovers for my customers in Singapore. I've got some other customers that race on the same track with there Evo X's and FD's that you might run to. Currently we have a lot of the parts for EG, EK, DC2, DA, and CRX machined and ready to go and our leadtimes for those particular sets is about 4-5 weeks at this time.

Thanks again, and let me know how they do at your track.
 
#12 ·
These look like a great product, they caught my eye, as their engineering/ quality perked my interest. I am more interested in quality and performance.

I sent them some inquries of my own about specifics of their products/ damping/ manufacturing, I will wait for their response.

I am curious if anyone has actually had them revalved with KONI-na or such? Their site specifies they are able to serviced at most places that service high end dampers of such.
 
#16 ·
I am curious if anyone has actually had them revalved with KONI-na or such? Their site specifies they are able to serviced at most places that service high end dampers of such.
If I am every out of the country it is no longer than 3 months. Our products are sold worldwide, and I deal with many people all over the world. My traveling has nothing to do with our leadtimes. We are just that damn busy. I have not left the country in 8 months. I have been back since February. AMR Engineering is not the only thing I have going on :) With or without me AMR keeps on going.

Thanks for the vouch. Our coilovers are top notch, but they are made to order. We do stock some parts when we can, but that is usually only our most popular applications. EG, EK, DC2, Evo X, and our STI Coilovers.
Are you able to address the above question of mine with any known success stories regarding getting your dampers revalved and serviced at other facilities, such as KONI-na, Penske, Moton etc? I also like to know for reasons for options of possibly getting service done at a more local service facility.
 
#13 ·
Bump for above question?
 
#14 ·
I to can vouch for the superior craftsmanship of Andys coilovers. and i to can say you must be very patient with him. He always seems to be coming or going and not in the U.S. if they had any downfall that would be it. i have not had a chance to put mine on yet but am very anxous to try them out.

Andy and i actually got into it a little bit as i am not a very patient person and was nervous dealing with a company that wasn't very well known. but he always answered my e-mails and always
called me back
even calling me back from out of the country when it was 4am just so it was convenient for me.
 
#15 ·
If I am every out of the country it is no longer than 3 months. Our products are sold worldwide, and I deal with many people all over the world. My traveling has nothing to do with our leadtimes. We are just that damn busy. I have not left the country in 8 months. I have been back since February. AMR Engineering is not the only thing I have going on :) With or without me AMR keeps on going.

Thanks for the vouch. Our coilovers are top notch, but they are made to order. We do stock some parts when we can, but that is usually only our most popular applications. EG, EK, DC2, Evo X, and our STI Coilovers.
 
#17 ·
I'm not quite sure to be honest. I don't keep in touch with all my customers so who knows what they have done or who they have dealt with. The fact is our shocks are fully rebuildable, and can be rebuilt by practically anyone who can rebuild bilstein, penske, and so forth. One of the companies that can rebuild our product and who has worked with our dampers is http://www.resuspension.com/

Why not work with your local shock builder if you have a good one? They probably know your local tracks well, have worked with your chassis, and you get local support. We've made our shock really easy to work with that is why I got guys like http://www.resuspension.com/, and http://odib.web.officelive.com/default.aspx to name a few that can service them no problem.
 
#18 ·
Thanks much for your reply. That response was good enough, and will definately inquire about rebuild services locally and through the facilities that you linked. Seems like you have an excellent product and definately would like to give them a run in the very near future.

Thanks again.
 
#19 ·
No problem, with our new website we will list all the shops we work with globally so our customers know which shops have experience with our dampers. We have a great product, in the 5 years we have been doing this we have never had a blown damper. Our facility has never been sent a damper that was blown that needed servicing. The only time we have ever taken a damper apart was to revalve them for customers who went from having a daily driven car going to a full track car.
 
#20 ·
off the shelft,will these significantly improve handling or do they need to be built(revalved,different springs) for racing to be actually an upgrade?
 
#21 ·
Well I don't quite exactly get what your saying because our customers would not be purchasing our product if they were not getting a significant improvement and getting something to fit there desired needs. Hence the reason why our coilovers are made to order. Getting them revalved for race use is solely dependant on where your starting to begin with. Our customers have a variety of needs so depending on where they start will determine if there shocks needs to be revalved. When a customer of mine is running 350/325 on there civic, and wants to run 1,000lbs spring rates they need to be revalved. But then I have customer who are setup with 550/650 who can run higher spring rates on there dampers all day long without having to send them in for a revalve. Now these are just examples. Again it is purely dependant on your needs as well as where your starting from. It is rare for our customers to go from a daily driver to full race. Most either have a weekend warrior which is practically a track car to begin with, or have a seperate chassis all together. These are the last dampers my customers should ever need, and they are made to be easily serviced by practically anyone, and can be revalved for any application while keeping things simple.

Have a good weekend everyone. Also you probably didn't know this, but right now we are having a 25% off sale. Later!
 
#22 ·
I guess I worded that totally wrong.I also forgot they are made to order.If I order a set and want them for a daily driven car,I can still take them out and have some fun with them,possibly auto-X or just some spirited driving(I know it may not be optimal).I would'nt wanna tell you guys to build me a set for my DD then find out they feel no better than other,cheaper coilovers when pushed(to the limits of street tires).Also,I may have missed it,but what is the internal size of the damper for the 06+ civics?
 
#23 ·
Sure, but don't get soo caught up with high spring rates equaling to a harsh ride, people only have that opinion or experience due to there inexperience. There is no reason why you can't have something that is good on the street, and perform at a high level. I've been known to call some nuthuggers out, and I've sent our dampers to them, they have NEVER sent them back because they did exactly what I claimed they would do, and I get a new customer and I get paid :) I got a lot of guys that race in ST class Auto-X in there EF civic and they daily drive there cars while competiting at a high level on the weekends. When you got guys that drive on Motons, that can drive one of ours cars just as fast and in a lot of cases faster were doing something right.

All the hardware as far as piston size, and shock body diameter is the same for all our dampers for the most part. 44mm pistons with a 52mm damper body. We do have a inverted monotube damper, but I only make those where a application calls for it, but I do not advertise them. We like to keep things simple and to the point. We have proven durability as well as performance, and back it with a outstanding warranty.

I currently have all the parts to put together a set for your chassis. That is RARE lol haha. Most of my clients wait 3-4 months for our product. I do try to keep in stock parts to assemble our most popular applications, but it's hard when our company is growing as fast as it is. We are absoluately blessed to have some amazing customers who know how much work is involved in what we do, and patiently wait for us to produce and deliver our product. It makes my job easier when I have customers that understand that.
 
#24 ·
sounds good...wish I had the disposable income to give you guys a shot...My Tiens are'nt cuttin' it for me anymore.:( I'll def keep you in mind though.
 
#27 ·
so quick question,do you guys provide shock dyno's with purchase?
 
#30 ·
Well that goes the same way for most companies out there which include Penske, Ohlins, KW, and JRZ. Just cause you can read numbers on a line does not mean you know what the dyno graph is telling you. You can send a shock to any shock rebuilder, and he can dyno them all day long, but there is critical information not only does he need about the vehicle, but also the consumer needs in order to make anything out of it. I was having this very same conversation with Jason@RE Suspension. I sent him a set of shocks to dyno, and he said they dynoed good, but that is all he can say about them cause he has no information on the car, it's use, what spring rate it's for, and a typical consumer does not have that information 99.9 percent of the time. The only thing a shock dyno plot does is bring out the wanna be shock builders, or suspension tuners that think they know how to build a shock and read a dyno graph. Yah there are a few things a dyno graph can tell you, but most people know that it only tells like 1 percent of the story. I make people faster, PERIOD. I've proven that time and time again. Here is actually a copy and paste of a e-mail I received from another very well known shock builder that I had sent a dyno plot to.

"As for if these match your car - I have no idea. I'd need motion
ratios, sprung and unsprung weights, tracks and wheelbases, etc." That is the typical responce I expect from anyone that I work with cause it's simply the truth.

Now this is another professional replying to me after looking at a shock dyno plot I provided to him. Yes the piece of paper I provided for him with pretty lines didn't really tell him shit. Yah it showed the range of adjustment, and a few minor things, but to actually get REAL data from it you need to know more than just being able to read lines on a graph people. Anyone that preaches otherwise is a fool. The dyno is simply a tool, it's not the story. The track tells the story.

Even the dyno plots that are included with some of these taiwanese brands aren't good for shit, and the times I do dyno them and compare them to the plots they are nothing close to what was included. They probably just photocopy the same shit over and over again and throw it in the box. Now that is just a waste of life, and paper.