2.2 will probably be your most reasonable choice, since the 3.2 is for higher compression k24

 

06-08 Tsx motor all stock with rbc and dtr header.


Prayoonto stage 3 cams Yosolo tuned (dyno reads low which is well known on the east coast)

 

dam... dont mean to threadjack, but do you know if those prayoonto stage 3's would do much better on 12.5 compression?

And is the car running e85 on that graph?

 

Hey that chart looks familiar! Lol Prayoonto 3s doing work on my stock 07 tsx engine. RBC SSR header type s oil pump and 70mm tb that's it! Car went 12.3 first pass and weighed 2500lbs lol. Cams idle great! It runs like a stock car no lie!

 

My friend will be pushing the limits on a Tsx block very soon.

Prayoonto stage 3's
Excessive 58mm with q45
All in fab header
Hand port std valve prb head
Type s pump
E85

280 or bust. On a stock block!

 

super nice graph!! your making me go with 3.2's now. I only have Hytech headers & hytech 2.5 exhaust, rbc manifold, and 65 mm bore with 70mm opening. My only option is drag cartel because my friend has the sets and he's getting rid of his car.

 

god dam.... so essentially, are the prayoonto stage 3's comparable to the DC4s? and are the prayoonto cams billet?

I'm pretty much 12.5comp k24, asp 4-1, stock rbc, stock port prb head, 70mm HR tb, and 3inch exhaust, i was originally gonna go for some dc4's but these pss stage 3's have a slightly less price tag

 

No, you are off.

The DC 3.2 have these specs

Intake: 13.8 mm Lift / 254 Duration @ .050

Exhaust :13.2 mm Lift/ 250 Duration @ .050

Norris Stage 3 are the same specs, essentially same cams

The DC4 have much bigger lift, instead of 0.540 inch, they are around 0.565 inch. That would be tough to clear with enough VTC on a stock TSX block.

That's one of the reason why Norris is not publishing the specs.


Loyd, if you want max torque go with th 2.2.

If you want max HP go with the 3.2

We dynoed a stock tsx with my svm 212.4 which is the improvement over the original IPS k10 cam (0.540 lift) and it made close to 285 HP

Loyd, thank you for asking me on facebook, best of luck!

 

your svm 212.4 comparable to the 2.2's or 3.2's? That pretty sweet results you have there !!

 

In chronological order

ips k10 was 0.540 lift on the intake vtec lobe around 2004-2005

dc 3.2 is 0540 lift since recently

norris is 0.540 lift since they are the same cams as the DC 3.2

svm 212.4 is 0.550 lift since we had to beat the original k10

they are not really meant for tsx but they did work with power, I have the graph but its not a dynojet.

Rob, is right, it can make 280 HP with racegas

 

Owner wants to see 300 so he ordered a new manifold,

hit me up in a few weeks for results, but for now, I think 3.2 is for peak power, 2.2 will be better for you midrange tq that you are looking for since you are not going to be drag racing.

The original ips k10 had big primaries so the tq would be better but that also means high idle to you cannot get that with the 3.2 or the Norris 3.

 

unless i'm reading this wrong or the cam specs have changed Norris' stage 3's are these specs

http://www.prayoontoracing.com/online-shop/signature-series/camshafts/stage-3.html

 

Hello,

Those are a joke. Its really easy to tell.

Dont be that naive.

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The graph I posted for sure looks like a drag racing graph. Not. It makes flat torque across the whole range.


If pump e85 is race gas then yeah 280 on race gas.

 

The thread is asking about 3.2 vs 2.2

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No , 100% certain Norris Did NOT COPY DRAG CARTEL

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As manufacturers we can make cams for.different.brands.

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If you change one.number its still a unique profile with Same specs.

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By measuring it. Thats the easiest way. A hard way would be to.dyno a set.on.your engine and make.close to.the Same.power if.not.identical.

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If those aren't the correct specs to the PSS stage 3's then why would he advertise them as that?

 

Same thing I'm thinking.

Always got something bad to say about other brand cams, smh

 

But they aren't the same...

 

Ok,ok.

So Drag Cartel makes a DC4 with 0.570 máx lift , Norris makes a 0.570 and calls it STAGE 5 to get one up on Jeremy... Then he comes up with a STAGE 3 ,almost Same specs with DC3.2 and makes a STAGE 6 ...

So What happened to the STAGE 4? LMAO

 

If its your weekend car then i would go with the 3.2's. These cams will out shine the 2.2's as you continue to mod your car

 

Why must you (Nikos) attempt to bash Norris every chance you have? Is it because he holds 2 of the fwd drag racing world records? Is it because he is known around the world? Is it because he is probably one of the smartest at what he does? It seems like every post about Norris you come and give your .02. And attempt to bash him and make him look like a copy cat and that he doesn't deserve the credit. Gtfo man leave the man alone let the man be holy shit its like you have some secret obsession or something. You want to give your .02 well there's mine Nikos let the man live damn....

 

@allmotorbubble

do you have a show off thread or any kind of video with the pss stage 3?

 

Lol at talking smack on the stage 6. You mean the one with 2 world records? He could call it stage 12 if he wanted to..

 

Lol, too funny.

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can't wait to try them, no guarantees i'll have them in before the summer

 

Prayoonto - making parts, winning races.

Cartel - making parts, winning races.

SVM - not making parts, trashtalking on the internet.

 

:lolface:

I dont think you can go wrong with either Prayoonto or Cartel, have you called either shop?

 

The 2.2's are more suited for a k20 than a K24 IMO.

 

Agreed.. 3.2 for k24