AP2 S2000 Cluster In EG

KJMRide · Mar 29, 2009

I have found that trying to follow the spread out information on this subject very frustrating. So this is going to be my attempt to organize it.

First off what is needed:

S2000 Cluster

Wire pig tales for S2000 cluster

Modifry AP2 stock ECT converter
http://www.modifry.com/products/ect/ap2.htm

Speedohealer V4 universal
http://www.pashnit.com/

The wiring is pretty straight forward. First off label the factory EG cluster wires. You will only use the top two plugs in the diagram A and B plugs. You will also use the E plug if you have airbags.

After that I labeled the S2000 cluster. There are a lot of pins that you don't use. I just unpinned the extra pins from the plugs so there was less clutter.

Sorry the pictures are hand to see but here we go

EG
Plug A --------to----------- S2000

A1 Blue/White Seat belt indicator to B4 Blue/Red
A2 Green Trunk indicator to A12 Blue/Black
A3 Yellow Ignition Power to A1 and A9 both Yellow
A4 Yellow/Green ECT sensor to Nothing
A5 Black Ground to A17 and A18 both black
also to A16 Red/Blue
A6 Green/Orange Check Engine Light to B28 Green/Orange
A7 Blank
A8 Antilock Brakes----------------------Do not have it------------------------
A9 Green/Red Brake Indicator to B23 Green/white
A10 Red/Green High Beam Indicator to A15 Red/White

EG
Plug B------------to------- S2000

B1 Yellow/White Fuel Sender to B10 Yellow/Black
B2 Yellow/Blue Vss to Speedohealer
B3 Green/Yellow Right turn to B30 Green/Yellow
B4 Green/Blue Left turn to B29 Green/Red
B5 White/Blue Battery Light to B26 White/Blue
B6 Yellow/Red Oil Press. Ind. to B27 Yellow/Red
B7 Blank
B8 Blue Tach to B3 Blue
B9 Blank
B10 Black/Yellow SRS fused Ignition to Nothing
B11 Red/Black Parking Lights to A8 Red/Black
B12 Red Dimmer to Nothing

EG-------------to-------- S2000
Plug E

E5 Blue SRS Indicator to B19 Pink

---------------------------------Modifry ECT to a PRC Ecu-------------------------

Modifry Unit

White to B8 on PRC computer Red/White
Green to B5 on S2000 cluster Yellow/Green
Yellow to A20 on PRC computer Yellow/Blue
Brown to Ground
Gray to Alarm (not used)
Black to Ground

---------------------------------Speedohealer--------------------------------------

Speedohealer

Red to Ignition Power A3 on EG cluster
Black to Ground
Green to B7 Blue/White on S2000 cluster
White to B2 on EG cluster plugs

---------------------------------Other Notes----------------------------------------

Connect A3 and A10 both White/Red on S2000 cluster to a hot all the time 12V source. You will have to find one I used the hot wire at the clock in the dash just because it was right there.

You also have to connect B20 Blue/Red on the S2000 cluster to ground to turn off the ABS light.

This cluster completely works in my car so all wires are tested and verified. The only problem I see is if I typed something wrong.

maddog · Mar 29, 2009

thanks dude:up::up:

froshtyv · Mar 30, 2009

looks the job!
Id say the european wiring differs alot from the usdm wiring. I guess its just a case of labeling all the wires correctly

KJMRide · Apr 9, 2009

I noticed my fuel gauge was not very accurate today so I looked up the sending unit specs. Here is what I got.

S2000
Float Position------------Full------------1/2------------low------------Empty
Resistance--------------11-13----------52-58---------114-120--------130-132
Ohms

Honda Civic DX
Float Position----------Full-----------------Half-------------------Empty
Resistance-----------2-5--------------------25-39-----------------105-110
Ohms

I added a 25 ohm resistor inline to the sending unit and it brought the gauge to a more accurate reading. As you can see by the numbers you can not get it perfect but 25 ohms (actually I was at 23.5 didn't have a 25 ohm resistor so I had to make one) gets it close.

Adam West · Apr 9, 2009

This should be a sticky. Thank you for this.

detox114 · Apr 9, 2009

:up::up:

11sec CR-X · Apr 13, 2009

Where are you getting the trim to fill in the gaps the cluster leaves behind? Whats the big difference between the AP1 cluster and the AP2 besides looks? Are they both the same difficulty to swap? I see alot of AP2 swaps!

11sec CR-X · Apr 13, 2009

???????

dr_xyko · Jan 13, 2010

What resistor type i use in fuel gauge? techinical specification?

jerry4life · Jan 13, 2010

Good info here.:up::up:

davidk20ek4 · Jan 13, 2010

so would this be the same for ek....does anyone have the wiring diagram for the ek plugs....i am going to be doing this real soon since i dont have a tack in my stock ek cluster....

and do you need the modifry and the speedohealer for a k20 .....

98luder · Jan 28, 2010

i just did it on my ek as well, like yesterday

nice write up kjmride

oh yea, i did notice my fuel gauge acting wierd like it moves a few bars back and forth on accel and decel, not a lot but i do notice it. Yesterday i installed my speedohealer i noticed my fuel reads empty

i have to check for a lose connection.

I made a subharness for my conversion.
thanks again for sharing your info kjmride it hopefully can help me figure out my fuel gauge gremlins.

eg6k20a2 · Jan 13, 2010

Also for a crx?

dcloo · Jan 13, 2010

good reading....

dr_xyko · Jan 13, 2010

Please... help-me

809eg6 · Jan 23, 2010

so let me know i have a k20z1 and a k20z1 harness

Scourge · Jan 28, 2010

Thanks 98luder for pointing me to this post!

I've been wondering about the resistor. So, does it ever show full with the 25 ohm resistor?

Scourge · Jan 29, 2010

Hey guys! I made a discovery as I was figuring out the wiring... The Del Sol and EG Civic have exactly the same ICU (Integrated Control Unit) which controls the wipers as well as beeps at you if your key is left in, seatbelt unbuckled, etc. If I can find a matching male connector for the ICU, I might just wire that into my cluster instead.

AP2 (at least for 2004) pinouts for built in ICU in S2000 cluster:
A13 Passenger Door Switch
A14 Driver Door Switch
B04 Seat Belt Switch -
B06 Ignition Switch
B12 Intermittent/Park Wiper Control
B16 Park Input
B17 Intermittent Wiper On Input
B18 Windshield Washer On Input

90blkteg · Feb 10, 2010

Bump good info!

mr.eg6 · Feb 22, 2010

i have been working on mine for a couple of days now. everything is working except the seatbelt indicator (wonder why because i have it connected correctly) and the door indicator(not connected yet) . i already have the vss converter and the ect module and will be wirring those up tomorrow.

here is a test video of my set up.
(vid taken from sidekick 09 , bare with me)

The Situation · Feb 26, 2010

sweeet my friend has 1 in his eg very clean

wanted ek9 · Feb 27, 2010

Guys.. I need your help. I am planning to use AP1 cluster in my JDM K20A Civic EK. I already have the S2000 AP1 cluster with me right now. I'm about to get a Speedohealer V4 and ECT module. But when I go to the Modifry website to order it, there's 2 options for me to select. First, AP1(2000-2003) AEM EMS, and the other one was for AP1(2000-2003) Stock ECU.

Let's say if I'm using the stock PRC ECU, which one should I get? And what if I'm using a Hondata? Or is it just the same?
And another question, from the write ups, it shows that there's a wire from the ECT module that has to be connect to the ECU, what if I'm using a stock PRC ECU or even Hondata?

I really need to know. Hope u guys can help me.. Thanks guys..

ketchup214 · Mar 26, 2010

wanted ek9 said:
Let's say if I'm using the stock PRC ECU, which one should I get? And what if I'm using a Hondata? Or is it just the same?
And another question, from the write ups, it shows that there's a wire from the ECT module that has to be connect to the ECU, what if I'm using a stock PRC ECU or even Hondata?

yea find the pinouts to your ecu and splice it to ECT

wanted ek9 · Mar 4, 2010

anyone? really need some info.

ketchup214 · Mar 26, 2010

get ap1 stock it"ll work

JDM Mang · Mar 25, 2010

I'm in the process of doing a ap2 into my eg and i have jdm k20a too but I'm running a prb kpro. i jus ordered what he said we need and imma go from there hopefully everything goes well

JDM Mang · Mar 28, 2010

i just got the modifry today i'm doing a ap2 into an eg. do i have to install anything on the ect module or i should just go ahead and cut and splice right away as the thread says?

ketchup214 · Mar 29, 2010

Yea splice it to d13 and d20 on the ecu wire,they are ect and vcc2, that's how I install it in my integra

JDM Mang · Apr 9, 2010

i need some help i see on the modifry part, connect the green wire to b5 on s2k cluster? does that mean i have to have a longer wire to extend it to reach the cluster since the other wires have to be connected all the way down to the prc?

ketchup214 · Apr 9, 2010

yes thats right green wire to b5 if its ap2 cluster ap1 cluster it is c7. yea thats what i did i had the modifry chip close to the ecu and extended the green wire.

JDM Mang · Apr 10, 2010

for the A3 and A10 both white/red on the ap2 cluster that we have to connect to the eg clock wire, what color is the wire?

ketchup214 · Apr 10, 2010

I'm not sure about ap2, but I'm asuming one is power and memory for the clock,

AP2 S2000 Cluster In EG

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