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all right guys here are some pics my budy eric snapped today....



















the itb's are absolutly amazing, verry smooth and fit great(one dent under the hood on the webing was needed though to clear). some of you might have seen my car before with it had twm's on it. personaly for a daily driver i would have to say the hayward one's are the way to go but for a race car the twms would have it..
 

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i will be running screens on them for filters but i think an itg single plate or sock type filter would fit fine. they cost just above 2k for every thing shipped from hayward performance, that's just above twm and below toda, the price verries depending on the size and linkage setup. with these one's i can now put a hood back on my car and the throttle is smooth like stock. the twm's are a straight line threw the port design, with a flashlight i could literaly see straight thew the throttle plates and threw the valves to my piston, although they do have the ushual twm sticky throttle(not bad, just had to tap the throttle to bring down the idle). that's why i would recomend them for race and these for street.
 

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I was thinking about doing that exhaust tip setup to keep it looking like a sleeper. But does it make that obnoxious rattling noise??? or no? Im hoping it can still sound deep with a small opening, if its a highflow exhaust.
 

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it's a hytech muffler with two small mufflers under the car. sounds just like stock. the motor it self is louder than the exhuast..
 

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wow your car is super rad! ^like he said, what ecu and what kind of tuning is needed? is that a hook up price or the normal? again, your car is amazing and tia :up:
 

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i'm running a k-pro right now but will be switching over to an aem ems as soon as i can come up with the funds. the price is regular but it is one of the first made so prices can change.. thanks for the complements.
 

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it was verry verry simple, just had to take the studs out of the intake side and replace them with bolts, and put it on like a regular manifold.
 

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With ems will it still run as smoothly, be emission friendly and not require a hack job for wiring? Like if I plans of doing itb's should I just put in a ems instead of kpro or is kpro good enough, the car will be a weekend car and show queen, not trying to squeeze every last bit of power out.
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k20spooner said:
With ems will it still run as smoothly, be emission friendly and not require a hack job for wiring? Like if I plans of doing itb's should I just put in a ems instead of kpro or is kpro good enough, the car will be a weekend car and show queen, not trying to squeeze every last bit of power out.
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A K-Pro will be fine for this kind of application. But to get the most from them you need an ECU capable of TPS v RPM mapping. Using a K-Pro means you need to use an accumlator linking each throttle body together in order to feed a MAP signal to the ECU, it works but is not ideal for getting the most out of them. As far as the wiring goes it would only be a *hack* job if you choose to make it one...

Good part throttle characteristics can be difficult to achieve with TPS V RPM mapping because you are using a potentiometer with a limited range so it's difficult to achieve the kind of resolution needed to get good control at part throttle openings because small changes in throttle position may not be accurately sensed and the first few degress of throttle movement are where large changes in air flow are occuring so you can lose low speed and cruise smoothness. I would imagine this is much less of a problem if using the K-Pro with the MAP sensor. Emissions should not be a problem with good tuning.
 
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