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ok , so im wanting to start my build and i have decided on some factors but im kinda lost on others , maybe you guys can help me out.

Alright so im looking to put a K20 or a K24/20 Frank in my EK hatch, im looking to make 400-500 HP and keep it DD. i was looking at going with the Garrett GT40r i just dont know exactly witch one would be best atm.

as far as budget goes im looking at keeping it under 20k for sure , thats including all parts and any machine work included as far as putting it all in and together i can do that on my own.

Im just lost on things like Comp Ratio , pistons rods and Type of parts i might need , weather i should build the head and if so how far and what parts, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sry if any of this is so hella noob i have you guys Lost , if u have any questions bout wtf im talking bout dont be afraid to call me a noob and ask :silly: .
 

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ok , so im wanting to start my build and i have decided on some factors but im kinda lost on others , maybe you guys can help me out.

Alright so im looking to put a K20 or a K24/20 Frank in my EK hatch, im looking to make 400-500 HP and keep it DD. i was looking at going with the Garrett GT40r i just dont know exactly witch one would be best atm.

as far as budget goes im looking at keeping it under 20k for sure , thats including all parts and any machine work included as far as putting it all in and together i can do that on my own.

Im just lost on things like Comp Ratio , pistons rods and Type of parts i might need , weather i should build the head and if so how far and what parts, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sry if any of this is so hella noob i have you guys Lost , if u have any questions bout wtf im talking bout dont be afraid to call me a noob and ask :silly: .
What are the plans for this car other than you want to hit 400-500whp???

I have a stock k20z1 with a GT3076 and I am at a little over 400whp partially tuned on pump running low boost.

If you Plan on building your motor I would step up to a GT35 and that turbo will still net you to around 600whp and have much faster spool time than a gt40 and it will also be cheaper.

You can look to Peakboost or AFI or if you really want to drop some coin Full-Race on their turbo setups for your car.

As far as which motor do go with thats up to you. You can go for a higher reving lower torque k20a2 or you can go to a higher torque output, lower reving k24. The K24 may be a bit over kill because you are going to have a shit load of traction problems regardless to which motor you go with and the k24 makes alot more torque than the k20 does. I know that with my car I can light up the tires in every gear except 5th & 6th.

For rods get Manley, pistons CP, use OEM bearings, Supertech valve train, stock cams or stage 1 or 2 NA cams of your choice but I would shy away from the skunk2 cams, too many tensioner problems with theim.

A CC twin disc clutch will be ideal for your build and if I were you I would look into a set of PPG gears because the Tranny is our weak link.
 

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thx for the info.

as far as other than 400-500 hp im just looking to keep it a DD but have fun with it when im out at the track or playing around town.

dont realy know my options other than that im just getting into the car game.
 

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thx for the info.

as far as other than 400-500 hp im just looking to keep it a DD but have fun with it when im out at the track or playing around town.

dont realy know my options other than that im just getting into the car game.
well, honestly, best thing for you to do is ride with someone around you locally with a k-series setup similar to the one that you want.

I Personally think that anything over 400whp on the streets is more than you need because after awhile the traction issues outweigh your power output. You just make too much power to hook on street tires. Now, at the track with slicks it another thing.

If you are going to be happy with 400whp then you are good to stick to a stock motor and just boost the damn thing. I daily my RSX with a peakboost kit, gt3076 turbo, etc. and I haven't had any problems with her at all. I have 50k miles on the car and about 15k miles boosted.



 

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how much are you boosting ?


and as far as riding with someone down here with a K in it theres very few that aint complete assholes bout it. and then the others that have to many stolen parts to trust anyone lol , maybe 2-3 guys here in Tampa that i know of that might but all of em are stock no spray.
 

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ok , so im wanting to start my build and i have decided on some factors but im kinda lost on others , maybe you guys can help me out.

Alright so im looking to put a K20 or a K24/20 Frank in my EK hatch, im looking to make 400-500 HP and keep it DD. i was looking at going with the Garrett GT40r i just dont know exactly witch one would be best atm.

as far as budget goes im looking at keeping it under 20k for sure , thats including all parts and any machine work included as far as putting it all in and together i can do that on my own.
I'm just going to throw this out there as I dont know your situation. Ask yourself if this is the best use of $20k? Since its an older chassis, it will still only be worth $5k in the event of an accident/theft/etc.
 

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I'm just going to throw this out there as I dont know your situation. Ask yourself if this is the best use of $20k? Since its an older chassis, it will still only be worth $5k in the event of an accident/theft/etc.

meh i think an EK hatch is pretty good looking , fairly light imo as well the cars i drive right now are a EG 4dr and a EF 4dr i think out of the 3 ef ,eg and ek the EK is the winner , if u think another car is Light and looks good hit me up with a pick or a make ill take a look , havent realy settled on one 100% yet but so far the EK hatch is in the lead imo.
 

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just curious but if i do put the K into a EK hatch what wireing do i have to change ? like wireing harness and other crap ? the K comes OBD II right ? you guys run OBD II or conversion ? a Freind brought this up and i felt retarded cuz i didnt know....
 

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how much are you boosting ?


and as far as riding with someone down here with a K in it theres very few that aint complete assholes bout it. and then the others that have to many stolen parts to trust anyone lol , maybe 2-3 guys here in Tampa that i know of that might but all of em are stock no spray.

I am only partially tuned right now. I was having fuel problems when the car made it onto the dyno. A bad batch of gas clogged the fuel pump strainer and clogged the injectors. The car only stayed on the dyno for an hour before we pulled it off and we only did A/F tuning and boost control through Kpro. We never really tuned for power and we didn't touch the ignition or cam angles. The first pull the car made 438whp & 324ft/lbs @ 14psi then we de-tuned it to 400whp @ 280ft/lbs @ 15psi on pump uncorrected numbers and we tuned it in horrible weather conditions (102 degrees & 87% humidity) on a mustang dyno. So realistically the car is making more than that now. I fixed the fuel issues and turned the boost up a bit and street tuned it more. The car is a blast to drive but the traction issues are more than annoying. When I go back to my tuner Jason (most of you guys know him as st00pid) I am going to make a few maps and I am going to install a hi/low toggle switch so I can have dual boost control maps so I can turn it down even more on the streets. I would like to detune it to near 350whp for the streets that way I can actually use the power I make.


If you need a motor let me know, I have a almost brand new K24 CRV motor with less than 7k miles on the odometer when the car it was in was wrecked. We were going to swap it into a GSR but the guy ran into a hard patch and changed his mind. We are selling it for half of what we paid for it. If you want it we are selling it for $900 plus shipping:

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=51724



I'm just going to throw this out there as I dont know your situation. Ask yourself if this is the best use of $20k? Since its an older chassis, it will still only be worth $5k in the event of an accident/theft/etc.
Honestly, there isn't anything wrong with doing these swaps. Friends and I have done 3 swaps so far and they are a blast. We haven't done any boosted k-swaps though, the only boosted K we have built is my car. They are a blast but I don't think that the thread starter should spend $20k on the build either. I would try to stick to about the $15k mark with all the parts needed for the swap and run a stock motor for now. Just put the extra money into running quality parts and a clean install with a great tuner to tune the car.

The stock motor is pretty damn strong and it will take the beating of 450whp all day on pump and be reliable.

meh i think an EK hatch is pretty good looking , fairly light imo as well the cars i drive right now are a EG 4dr and a EF 4dr i think out of the 3 ef ,eg and ek the EK is the winner , if u think another car is Light and looks good hit me up with a pick or a make ill take a look , havent realy settled on one 100% yet but so far the EK hatch is in the lead imo.
The Ek is a good car to do the swap in. The 3 swaps we have done have all been into Ek's and they have all been really fast and fun cars with little to know problems. I think that using the newest of the cars (in your case the Ek) will net you the best gains because the chasis should be in better shape than the older cars.

just curious but if i do put the K into a EK hatch what wireing do i have to change ? like wireing harness and other crap ? the K comes OBD II right ? you guys run OBD II or conversion ? a Freind brought this up and i felt retarded cuz i didnt know....

Yes, you will have to get a custom harness for the motor. Look into Hasport, Hybrid racing, and a few other companies.

When we did the k-swaps locally it was before all of these companys started making parts for the swaps. Now its basically a plug and play setup. You can buy all the direct fit parts and it makes it really easy to do. When we did our swaps we had to fabricate most of the parts ourselves. Hell, we were happy when we found out that Hasport had made a set of mounts for the swap, we thought that we would have had to make them on our own, lol. We ended up making most of the stuff like the harnesses ourselves, lol.

here is a picture of us tearing her to pieces, lol





 

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Cant remember were i read it but some time yesterday i was reading and i saw that a K24/20 will put out more torque , is this going to give me more of an issue hooking up on street tires ?, if so im assuming thats a full K20 swap would be better ? if im wrong plz lemmi know.
 

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ok since i cant seem to find it for some reason will somone direct me to the List of cramp i need to buy for the K swap into an EK ? list like anything other than just engine , tranny , like anythintg i need for the swap to work right list.
 

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There's a model specific forum with a FAQ....check it out.
 

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