No oil to cams, K24Z1 w/K20A2 head

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K24 CD7

Discussion Starter · Apr 1, 2012

Ok I been trying to get help with this for the longest and my car has been sitting for 5 months

I have a k24z1 block with a k20A2 head with a k20a2 oil pump. The setup works because I ran it for 3 months until the engine failed. Come to find out the head was basically dry. Now the k24z1 block has the oil filter on the bottom in which I didn't relocate it to the original older K series location. So what happened was that from no filtration shavings and other stuff built up on the VTC sensor screen cause oil blockage to the head and that's where everything went wrong. So after all of that I relocated the oil filter to the right place and got a new VTC sensor and crank bearings camshafts ect. Now my problem is that when I turn the car on the idle oil pressure is at like 80lbs and my cams are not getting lubed and im totally lost >_<

So the break down--- Motor starts, has oil pressure but not getting to my cams

I need Help Pleeeease :mindboom:

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signalpuke

· #2 · Apr 1, 2012

You didn't relocate the filter, correct?

Was the head ever getting oil?

See these threads

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28174
^^^ you posted in that one

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=95064

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98008

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K24 CD7

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 1, 2012

signalpuke said:
You didn't relocate the filter, correct?

Was the head ever getting oil?

See these threads

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28174
^^^ you posted in that one

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=95064

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98008

I ran the car without the filter for 3 months so im guessing it was getting oil until the build up started. Now I did relocate the filter but the head is not getting oil.

signalpuke

· #4 · Apr 1, 2012

I have deleted the original post 4 times now. If you post this again on the forum, I will ban you.

6spd_EK

· #5 · Apr 1, 2012

how can you run a car with no filter for three months?

you say 80psi at idle? what oil pressure sesnor(s) are you using? & where are they located?

did you block off the oil galley that feeds the balance shafts?

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K24 CD7

Discussion Starter · #6 · Apr 1, 2012

signalpuke said:
I have deleted the original post 4 times now. If you post this again on the forum, I will ban you.

Oh so you remade the thread I was here looking for it like wtf. Now i can remember what you put it under

K24 CD7

Discussion Starter · #7 · Apr 1, 2012

6spd_EK said:
how can you run a car with no filter for three months?

you say 80psi at idle? what oil pressure sesnor(s) are you using? & where are they located?

did you block off the oil galley that feeds the balance shafts?

I ran it without the oil filter so the motor was slowly dying by the contaminants running though the system. On the head where the VTC sensor is located the oil comes up from the block though that sensor but over time the screen got build up on it and eventually blocked oil from moving at all thats when the motor failed. Im using a k20a2 oil pressure sensor but right now its not connected because we have the guage hooked up there

signalpuke

· #8 · Apr 1, 2012

K24 CD7 said:
Oh so you remade the thread I was here looking for it like wtf. Now i can remember what you put it under

I moved it here, posted, and then you replied.

Do you have any pictures of your motor build?

K24 CD7

Discussion Starter · #9 · Apr 1, 2012

signalpuke said:
I moved it here, posted, and then you replied.

Do you have any pictures of your motor build?

No i dont have any pics right now the car has been in the shop for so long. I just wonder what it can be

6spd_EK

· #10 · Apr 1, 2012

did you plug the oil galley - like in the in the picture I posted? what oil pan are you running?

crip

· #11 · Apr 2, 2012

is it necessary to relocate the filter on this setup? i have a k24z that i am in the process of building now but have not got to assembly yet. why would you run with no filter? in for results

6spd_EK

· #12 · Apr 2, 2012

the k24z1 shares its filter location with k24z3/k24z4 - which is much lower & on a swap car would interfere with the intermediate shaft.

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K24 CD7

Discussion Starter · #13 · Apr 2, 2012

You will only have to relocate the oil filter if you want to use the k20a2 oil pump otherwise you don't have to worry about it. It didnt get in the way of my intermediate shaft it was really close tho

texm3x

· #14 · Apr 2, 2012

did reassemble block and accidently put silicone on bottom part where u shouldn't of, blocking off a port??

K24 CD7

Discussion Starter · #15 · Apr 2, 2012

texm3x said:
did reassemble block and accidently put silicone on bottom part where u shouldn't of, blocking off a port??

I wouldn't think nothing is blocked at the bottom because the gauge im using is located where the oil pressure sensor is located above the oil filter so that means oil is going up the block but something is going on in the head

K Miata

· #16 · Apr 2, 2012

6spd_EK said:
the k24z1 shares its filter location with k24z3/k24z4 - which is much lower & on a swap car would interfere with the intermediate shaft.

well you learn something new every day. never seen this before. so a z1 doesn't use that goofy oil cooler then?

crip

· #17 · Apr 2, 2012

K24 CD7 said:
You will only have to relocate the oil filter if you want to use the k20a2 oil pump otherwise you don't have to worry about it. It didnt get in the way of my intermediate shaft it was really close tho

well that sucks, was wanting to keep the filter down low for ease/clean oil changes but wanted to use k20 oil pump. have you pulled your head yet? maybe check and make sure nothing is lodged in a oil passage from when you were running no filter? its going to be hard to trouble shoot over net. your best bet is probably to pull apart and clean it up good. get a helms and study the oil passages and make sure they are all clear and nothing is out of whack.

K24 CD7

Discussion Starter · #18 · Apr 2, 2012

Yeah i pulled apart everything like 3 times and cleaned everything

this is a perfect example of whats going on I finally found one

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93900

texm3x

· #19 · Apr 2, 2012

K24 CD7 said:
Yeah i pulled apart everything like 3 times and cleaned everything

this is a perfect example of whats going on I finally found one

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93900

are you using k24 oil pan on rsxs oil pump??not breaking in engine right(staying under 55mph and 5000rpms)????newbuilds right???

to be honest with you i'm kind of having the same issue with fg2 and all the motors that go in the car.. something with the oil to the head when hitting vtec....or me using z3 oil pan on rsxs oil pump.

crip

· #20 · Apr 2, 2012

can you narrow it down to witch cam journals are not getting oil? is it all of them or just specific cam journals?

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