[oztaylor]

Done a little searching and found some answers but can anyone help with these questions. I am intending to remove my PS in my EG when I do my swap and manual racks are hard to come by over here (UK). I've seen people looping the PS hose and keeping a little fluid in there for lubrication.

Does anyone know if this setup is ok long term? It takes much more force on the steering wheel to move a rack without power assistance - can this put extra strain on parts of the PS rack/steering column that weren't designed to be used this way?

Also just to confirm - if I get hold of a manual steering rack will it bolt straight up to my subframe no problems?

Thanks in advance, Owen

 

[kommon_sense]

You should not do a simple loop on the rack. The better way is to still use a reservoir and just have both lines on the rack go to the reservoir. This allows fluid to still move through the rack as you turn the wheel. it also allows for expansion due to heat, etc.

Personally, I think its worth the trouble to stick with power steering. It will also allow you to swap an integra rack into the car to improve your ratio.

As for bolting up a manual rack. I'm not sure. I know there is a difference, but I don't know if it causes a problem or not.

 

[MANNYMAN]

I need to do this... i just have mines looped...

 

[nachris]

The reservoir is used by most people as a filter. You can drill a very small hole in the cap to allow air-flow in the lines, if you fill the reservoir up it will be extremely hard to turn the steering wheel. This is due to the fact that you are now having to push against the pressure of the fluids in the lines and reservoir. Most will agree that fluid is necessary for lubrication in a Power rack, but only a small amount is really needed.
A power rack with no pump makes it harder to steer than just a plain 'ole manual rack. So your best bet is to just swap to a manual. Or convert your rack to a manual.


Search around. Honda-tech and a few others have some good write-ups from the 90's lol.

 

[oztaylor]

Thanks for the replies.

I kind of tempted to swap in an integra rack - they are so easy to get hold of here in the UK. I will be swapping a jdm k20a with the usual bolt ons but that's where I am going to draw the line and I am trying to keep costs down as much as possible. I won't be building the engine or anything so my power is going to be limited to around 215whp. This is why I want to keep the car as light as possible and reduce any unwanted losses.

Removing the p/s pump etc will prob save me around 6kg/12lbs and I've heard that the p/s pump can rob around 5whp. Is there any truth in this?

I really dont mind driving with a manual rack. I think I will loop the lines and tee in a reservoir with a minimum amount of fluid in and a breather hole.

 

[forked]

Personally, I think its worth the trouble to stick with power steering. It will also allow you to swap an integra rack into the car to improve your ratio.

Is this just a bolt in swap or do you have to mod mounting points and such? Do you know how much difference is between the DC5 and DC2 racks as far as ratio? tnx

 

[[LUC1D]]

http://nzhondas.com/forum/tech-help/70766-eg-manual-steering-swap-sloved-answers-inside.html

easy. same for EF minus the the grommet extension.

 

[kommon_sense]

Is this just a bolt in swap or do you have to mod mounting points and such? Do you know how much difference is between the DC5 and DC2 racks as far as ratio? tnx

The dc2 rack is interchangeable with the eg rack. I have an ek and used the hasport ekk2 mounts, so I had to go with the eg/dc2 subframe and chose the integra rack for the better ratio.

I maintained the factory power steering pump with a different pulley to clear the hood and was very happy with it. I then upgraded and went electric power steering. It allowed me to get the weight lower in the chassis as well as saving the 5-8hp that the stock p/s pump sucks up.