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i have been hearing alot of different things from alot of different people about the type-r trannie's LSD. I have heard that the LSD can't handle launching on slicks at the track because it breaks after 10 passes. Can any body confirm this? Has anybody have launched on slicks with this tranny a number of times? How is the LSD holding up?
 

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non vtec said:
I used the Type R LSD for awhile. I ran a meet on a really sticky track on my slicks and after that it didnt like launching over 7500rpm it would only spin one wheel to start with off the line then pick the other wheel up

Realy?

We never had that problem...

That sucks.. :?


What year Type R tranny was it...?
 

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drhonda said:
IMO if you wanted type r gearing, i would hunt for an 05 type s tranny and put a quaife in it. It has the same final drive and quaife will be stronger.
Same final drive but different gearing. I see what you're saying about the final drive and quaife combo,but the gearing is important too. Maybe I'm wrong. Can someone produce the gearing ratio numbers for the type-s and R???????
 

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doomsday said:
Here's a basic breakdown of how the torque multiplication would work with the stock RSX-S engine/trans, vs the JDM R/trans, vs the K-frank/5/6 speed. Man, I hope I didn't do all these calculations for nothing...

04 RSX-S: 142ft/[email protected] (05+ is [email protected])

1st Gear Ratio 3.267:1 - 463.91 ft/lbs
2nd Gear Ratio 2.130:1 - 302.46 ft/lbs
3rd Gear Ratio 1.517:1 - 215.41 ft/lbs
4th Gear Ratio 1.147:1 - 162.87 ft/lbs
5th Gear Ratio 0.921:1 - 130.78 ft/lbs
6th Gear Ratio 0.738:1 - 104.80 ft/lbs

Final Drive Ratio 4.389:1 (05+ is 4.765)

*Combo above is known to spin into middle of 3rd without slicks.



Integra Type-R: 152ft/[email protected] <----damn that's a hell of a hike.

1st Gear Ratio 3.266 - 496.43 ft/lbs
2nd Gear Ratio 2.130 - 323.76 ft/lbs
3rd Gear Ratio 1.517 - 230.58 ft/lbs
4th Gear Ratio 1.212 - 184.22 ft/lbs
5th Gear Ratio 0.972 - 147.74 ft/lbs
6th Gear Ratio 0.780 - 118.56 ft/lbs

Final drive - 4.764


K-Frank (162ft/lbs @ 3600<----perfect midrange peak) with Type S trans:

1st Gear Ratio 3.267:1 - 529.25 ft/lbs (65.3 more than Type S)
2nd Gear Ratio 2.130:1 - 345.06 ft/lbs (42.6 more than Type S)
3rd Gear Ratio 1.517:1 - 245.75 ft/lbs (30.34 more than Type S)
4th Gear Ratio 1.147:1 - 185.81 ft/lbs (22.94 more than Type S)
5th Gear Ratio 0.921:1 - 149.20 ft/lbs (18.42 more than Type S)
6th Gear Ratio 0.738:1 - 119.56 (14.76 more than Type S)

Final Drive Ratio 4.389:1 (05+ is 4.765)

*Combo listed above will need slicks for the first 4 gears easily. Also produces more torque in literally every gear than a stock type-R which has higher ratios AND a higher final drive.


K-Frank 162ft/[email protected] with RSX 5-speed Trans:

1st Gear Ratio 3.267:1 - 529.25 ft/lbs (65.3 more than Type S)
2nd Gear Ratio 1.880:1 - 304.56 ft/lbs (2.1 more than Type S) <------maches RSX-S with a much taller gear + wider powerband = more MPH AND more acceleration.
3rd Gear Ratio 1.212:1 - 196.34 ft/lbs (19.07 less than Type S)
4th Gear Ratio 0.921:1 - 149.202 ft/lbs (13.67 less than Type S)
5th Gear Ratio 0.738:1 - 119.57 ft/lbs (11.226 less than Type S)


*No need for slicks after about middle of second and STILL has a wider powerband than either the RSX-S OR the ITR so you'll be going a higher MPH after every shift. Keep in mind that both the 6 speed cars are making their peak torque by revving 2400 to 3400rpm LATER than the k24 5-speed and peak HP's by revving another 2100-3100rpm higher than you for nothing. You get equal HP and greater torque much sooner than they do and don't need to wind up nearly as high as them and STILL shift less, lol. And you've still got 2 points less compression. :twisted:

Final Drive Ratio 4.389:1


Now keep in mind that shorter ratios = lower MPH/gear and most importantly, more time shifting through gears = less time accelerating. I'll also say that the 4000+RPM powerband spread (peak torque and peak HP) is absolutely phenominal. That makes it nearly impossible not to be in the powerband and you don't have to rev it sky high (unlike the RSX-S and the ITR). I've never owned a single car (even heavily modified) that could match that spread. Also, when looking at the TSX's (2.4) gears - you see that it's taller in all gears, even though the car is much heavier than the RSX and the TSX makes Type-S power with CR-V torque. Guarantee the 5 speed would get not only more traction, but also MPH higher in the quarter.


Cliff's Notes: 6-speed 2.0L engines do far more work to make identical HP and less torque than 5-speed 2.4L engines. And the 2.4 still has a full 2 points less compression.
 

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TeamPacman said:
JDM K20 Coupe said:
so nobody has broken the type-r LSD yet? i noticed when pacman was racing in vegas he was on drag radials and not slicks. why was that?

IT was on SLICKS....
have you messed up your LSD yet?

i could have sworn when you broke an axle i went up to you and asked what kind of axles you were using and i saw nitto 555r extreme drag on the side wall.
 

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JDM K20 Coupe said:
TeamPacman said:
JDM K20 Coupe said:
so nobody has broken the type-r LSD yet? i noticed when pacman was racing in vegas he was on drag radials and not slicks. why was that?

IT was on SLICKS....
have you messed up your LSD yet?

i could have sworn when you broke an axle i went up to you and asked what kind of axles you were using and i saw nitto 555r extreme drag on the side wall.

LOL no...


Trust me it was not on nitto 555r..
 

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Man I just called the dealer and they said a 05' type-S tranny was $3800!!
Where would you get a used one for cheaper???
 

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TeamPacman said:
No need for a 05 type S...


Just get the type R tranny...

It's about $1200+-
it's crazy how the prices basically transfered over from the b to the k.
it seems like yestarday. i spent 5g's on a 98spec itr motor. now you can get a k20 itr motor for about the same price.

soon everyone's going to be rolling k series.
 
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