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What size gas lines should be used when swapping a k into an older civic?
Also which way is the best way to run the lines I've seen mixed reviews from doing one line vs two on the fuel rail etc... Thanks
 

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Where did you see reviews of doing "two lines on the fuel rail"? If you're talking about a return line, you don't really need one unless you're building a high HP N/A or mild turbo build.

Usually a -6AN as well.
Hoping 300-400hp range turbo k20z1

6an is like 3/8inch line right?
This is what I'm talking about. 1 vs 2
Which is the best way and which order of fpr/filter is best
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a 1,000hp engine needs a return. otherwise it wouldn't run at idle and low rpms
both setups are using a return. the way that's pictured is perfectly fine. the traditional fuel in one side and out the other to the regulator may provide a more stable fuel pressure over the entire rpm range.
 

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a 1,000hp engine needs a return. otherwise it wouldn't run at idle and low rpms
both setups are using a return. the way that's pictured is perfectly fine. the traditional fuel in one side and out the other to the regulator may provide a more stable fuel pressure over the entire rpm range.
I have seen a few different fuel set ups for k swaps now and i find the swaps (regardless of n/a or f/i) that run the inlet from the factory fuel filter location on the firewall and the return routed thru a fpr on the LHD drivers side to hold fuel pressure at a more stable pressure than the set ups that dont run a return line.

I have found that the set ups that run a returnless style system get pressure fluctuations at idle, causing slight misfires
 

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a 1,000hp engine needs a return. otherwise it wouldn't run at idle and low rpms
both setups are using a return. the way that's pictured is perfectly fine. the traditional fuel in one side and out the other to the regulator may provide a more stable fuel pressure over the entire rpm range.

How come the 8th gen civic that doesnt have a return needs one after 500/600 hp?
 

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I think some people don't know/understand that the newer civics are 'returnless system" meaning factory the fuelpump is what regulates the fuel pressure inside the tank thus no external return line . referring to a setup with a fpr with oneline only going into the fuel rail as 'returnless' isnot accurate . both setups have a return line coming out the bottom of the fpr.

when boosting a newer civic you need to add an aftermarket fuel pump to meet the fuel delivery needs(wich isn't self regulated in the tank like oem pump) thus you need to add a fpr wich has a return coming out the bottom

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I think some people don't know/understand that the newer civics are 'returnless system" meaning factory the fuelpump is what regulates the fuel pressure inside the tank thus no external return line .
I think even more people don't know/understand that cars with returnless fuel systems still use a FPR to regulate pressure. Difference is: the FPR is in the tank, right on top of the pump.

The primary OEM benefits are:
-less plumbing
-lower fuel temps (not circulating through fuel rail)

Why upgrade?
-ability to adjust fuel system pressure
-ability to handle higher bypass volumes
-try running a boost reference line to the OEM FPR...
 
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