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There is a big challenge with tackling climate change in the US. Many of the industries that would be impacted (manufacturing, energy/coal, etc.) offer a lot of blue-collar jobs. Making real changes towards climate change will cost a lot of those people jobs. Those people are already struggling and they are more concerned with putting food on their table than saving the environment.

I do not agree with them, but I do understand their viewpoint. Many of these areas are also red/republican districts. So republicans will not move on climate change because it will hurt big industry and also hurt many of their voters.

If you look at how the republicans view climate change, its the exact same strategy that the cigarettes companies used when denying that cigarettes were harmful.

1. No, its not a problem.
2. Maybe its a problem, but its not our fault
3. Maybe its us, but we aren't causing much of the problem.
4. etc...

Short story... US gov't will not make a real move towards improving climate change. it will only happen because individuals and industry do it on their own and the rest of the country is dragged along with them.
 

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1. No, its not a problem.
2. Maybe its a problem, but its not our fault
3. Maybe its us, but we aren't causing much of the problem.
4. etc...
Looks like you have disenchant the whole strategy of Trump :D. There are trails, Trump is vauntly tramping, which may lead him to an eye opener, at least to some reality for the people. Trump wanted to dry the Washington sump, but he is not pulling the plug, he fills up the level more and more.

Today some German Car maker managers visit the White House to prevent themselves from custom fees. This is new to me that companies do foreign politics instead of elected politicians. They just ride on the China-deal-wave, so partly success is granted, but the kind of what here is happening is odd to me, not to say it is disgusting to me. These three guys should be accompanied by European politicians...this is shouldn't broken down to just a deal of we build a plant at your place and you let of chaining us by fees...mimimimiiiiiiii :door:
 

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Dude... That is how politics gets done. The business (aka. money) talks directly to the politician. Businesses also use lobbyists. The lobbyists are highly paid people with political connections to get things done. You contribute to a campaign or give the politician some freebies and the deed is done. Remember, many politicians become lobbyists when they leave public office. Look at John Boehner, former republican speaker of the house. He is now lobbying for medical marijuana.. lol...

I recently watched a short documentary on how our laws process works. They showed that even laws that have strong disapproval from the public (both republican and democrats) still get passed if they have enough business support. They also showed that even if law has strong public approval (from both sides) that it will fail if business doesn't support it.

Will be interesting to see how all of this trade stuff works out, but I'm afraid that we will all be hurt by it. Look at what just happened to GM (General Motors).
 

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Dude... That is how politics gets done. The business (aka. money) talks directly to the politician. Businesses also use lobbyists. The lobbyists are highly paid people with political connections to get things done. You contribute to a campaign or give the politician some freebies and the deed is done. Remember, many politicians become lobbyists when they leave public office. Look at John Boehner, former republican speaker of the house. He is now lobbying for medical marijuana.. lol...
Here it is a bit different. Any deal they do is based on a grew zone concerning legality. The mandate of doing negotiations with the US administration lays on the EU elected guys not at EU companies. For me it is illegal, press was a bit more patient, but mentioned also its smelling character. The background is, it's about dealing within the custom fees and the three companies represent a significant amount of the total business. For me it is a illegal special arrangement, for Trump it will be like a path to go...that is my thinking on that.

I recently watched a short documentary on how our laws process works. They showed that even laws that have strong disapproval from the public (both republican and democrats) still get passed if they have enough business support. They also showed that even if law has strong public approval (from both sides) that it will fail if business doesn't support it.
What was the basis of their outcome? Maybe in Washington too much Lobbying is possible?

Will be interesting to see how all of this trade stuff works out, but I'm afraid that we will all be hurt by it. Look at what just happened to GM (General Motors).
I read about it 12,000 employees get fired, plants get closed, models get cut. Ford is planning something similar, maybe even bigger. They call it restructuring. I think it based on that, but not only...

Vaaju said:
BMW said that Munich had already invested $ 9.3 billion in its Spartanburg (South Carolina) factory. In 2021, it plans to invest another 600 million dollars and create 1000 additional jobs. 70 percent of production would be exported – a major contribution to the US trade balance. BMW und replaced the location of an additional engine plant in the United States.

The car dealers' visit to Washington is controversial in Germany, because the EU is actually responsible for trade negotiations with the United States, not the companies.

The president once again told Twitter what he thinks of free market economy: "I'm a man of tariffs." That road will always be the best to maximize America's economic power, continued Trump. Despite referring primarily to the negotiations in the trade dispute with China, Trump's Twitter involvement in customs was originally not a source of encouragement for the cars.
s. https://vaaju.com/austriaeng/german-car-manager-optimistic-after-the-meeting-with-trump-economy/
 

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Here it is a bit different. Any deal they do is based on a grew zone concerning legality. The mandate of doing negotiations with the US administration lays on the EU elected guys not at EU companies. For me it is illegal, press was a bit more patient, but mentioned also its smelling character. The background is, it's about dealing within the custom fees and the three companies represent a significant amount of the total business. For me it is a illegal special arrangement, for Trump it will be like a path to go...that is my thinking on that.

What was the basis of their outcome? Maybe in Washington too much Lobbying is possible?
Washington revolves around lobbying. That is how well-funded groups get what they want in washington. President Obama tried something interesting. He wanted anyone he hired to agree to not be a lobbyist for 2-3 years after they stopped working for him (kind of like a non-compete clause). He had a really hard time finding talented people who would agree to that because lobbying pays incredibly well. So they had to drop that idea.

I read about it 12,000 employees get fired, plants get closed, models get cut. Ford is planning something similar, maybe even bigger. They call it restructuring. I think it based on that, but not only...
Yes. Electric cars are the future and GM states that is where their focus is. Also, people aren't buying cars. everyone wants an SUV/Compact-SUV. GM will need to restructure to meet what is coming down the road.

This is a side effect of the Trump administration getting rid of the Obama-era CAFE regulations (corporate average fuel economy). Companies used small/compact cars to reduce their fleet fuel economy. Also, Ford announced earlier this year that they were dropping *all* cars, except the mustang and the upcoming ford focus active.

 

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...He wanted anyone he hired to agree to not be a lobbyist for 2-3 years after they stopped working for him (kind of like a non-compete clause)...
A good approach...

Yes. Electric cars are the future and GM states that is where their focus is. Also, people aren't buying cars. everyone wants an SUV/Compact-SUV. GM will need to restructure to meet what is coming down the road.
VW announced recently to have started the very last IC engine series project by 2026, after this runs out that only electrical stuff is empowering mobility at VW. Service of IC engines will continue. What a surprise. This will have an huge effect on the engine development scene, many engineering supplier and departments at VW itself get obsolete. Knowhow change is necessary...I started mine this year, switched from engine development into e-machine at a supplier of generators and e-motors. From a specialist position with 9 years experience in all kind of IC engine development fields back to the beginning as project leader of a boosted recuperation machine. A nice challenge me :D. Not sure if hundred of thousands will do the same?! At least the e-engines are less complex, less engineers, less production employees less service people...what they gonna do? This will get the biggest revolution in the labor market here in Germany.

This is a side effect of the Trump administration getting rid of the Obama-era CAFE regulations (corporate average fuel economy). Companies used small/compact cars to reduce their fleet fuel economy. Also, Ford announced earlier this year that they were dropping *all* cars, except the mustang and the upcoming ford focus active.
...not only Germany also the US industry. What are the answers here of the politicians, especially of Trump?
 

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Trump's 2019 will get interesting and most challenging, the Wall, the Russian Investigation and a stopped household are still retarding Trump's "success". His pull back out of everything forgein policy is like :door:...

...it's like ignoring the world become closest in economy and the USA want to do their own game. On the positive side you have an economic growth, even if it is short term, it is one of his promises :D. He need to solve the wall issue soon to open the minds of all parties to get the household again in action...if he try the France way to confront till people go back on the street to demonstrate, he will damage again the Washington DC image: being corrupte, being selfish, being money driven and will divide even more the country. Drying out mudd isn't easy, especially if he has a sooo spluttering speech when he talks about promises and visions. Hope the best for us all...

...in Europe we near as to Brexit, which is after the last strategic fail of Prime Minister Theresa May. It is not sure if will happen, if, it will be hard, if not May and some others loose their jobs. The last seems to me the better way for future, but then the EU need a little reformation to keep this thing going.

Huge rolling things for 2019, I hope we will see the best result for us all.

Wish you all a happy new year!
 

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Happy new year to all, wishing you guys a prosperous 2019!

Indeed a very interesting year ahead. Towards the end of last year Trump started to mention his dissatisfaction at the Federal Reserve, I think this will ramp up in 2019 as their goals are not aligned with his. The Government shutdown is his most pressing concern at the moment however I think his meddling in economic governance will be the biggest story of 2019.
 

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Who watched the presidential address from the oval office last night? Its embarassing how low the bar has been set for what passes as "leadership"...
I watched recently. It is just a shame for one leading a 320 million people country. I thought his strategy to win support for his wall would be more smart, but this is just pulled out of his as...s. "We hate not the one outside, we just love the one inside!". What? Such a truism. Where are his facts, he claimed for during his campaign? I thought he would be a bit more smarter, maybe he lost that night some of his supporters. If not, the arguements he gave by that speech to the Democrats is just astonishing. He showed up he is in a deadend and have no solution, so he whimpered 10 useless minutes at prime time for support of his deadend project it was from the beginning. We just need to look almost 2 years back in that thread...LOL :D.

If he give up shut down, he will loose reputation in the Trump faction. Jacky Chan was several times in a deadend and always found in his films out of the situation by cracy stunts or not less interesting strategies. I am curious which gizzy strategy Trump will take out of his cage. This will get definitely a milestone in his career as President of the United States. Early than I did have expected...seems like he gets scared shitless to loose too much of voters for 2020. But for this the Democrates need an relevant competitor. Do they have one to build up for the rallye in 2020?
 

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I think that was a effort to say that the democrats don't want secure borders and that they could end the shutdown.

Trump seems to forget that the shutdown happened before the Dems took control of the house. His own party didn't support his wall and wouldn't fund it, hence the shutdown which began last year.

I don't think this address from the oval office changed any minds. His supporters are still his supporters.

The folks that don't support the wall, still don't.

I hope that people concerned about the shutdown understand that the Dems have put forth legislation to fund the gov't and offered to continue discussino on the wall. Trump says he won't sign anything that doesn't fund his wall.

This has turned into a game of chicken. problem is while some gov't workers will get backpay for the shutdown, some are still required to work and *will not* get backpay.
 

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I think that was a effort to say that the democrats don't want secure borders and that they could end the shutdown.

Trump seems to forget that the shutdown happened before the Dems took control of the house. His own party didn't support his wall and wouldn't fund it, hence the shutdown which began last year.

I don't think this address from the oval office changed any minds. His supporters are still his supporters.

The folks that don't support the wall, still don't.

I hope that people concerned about the shutdown understand that the Dems have put forth legislation to fund the gov't and offered to continue discussino on the wall. Trump says he won't sign anything that doesn't fund his wall.

This has turned into a game of chicken. problem is while some gov't workers will get backpay for the shutdown, some are still required to work and *will not* get backpay.
Watched it now, was the most painful 10min on Youtube ever lol.

So basically he's come out and complained to the public that he can't reach an agreement in congress. Wow. Does he complain to his mom also when he can't settle an argument with Melania?

His nonchalant attitude towards government workers not getting paid astounds me, if anything that could be used as a major point to push for an agreement, yet his feedback on that is "they happy to not get paid because they want the Wall (which is actually a fence now) more than they want to get paid" How the entire nation doesn't look at this and go "WTF" is beyond me.

I really didn't realize that the situation is this bad in the States. I guess living in the 3rd World had me thinking it can't be so bad. I was sorely mistaken
 

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...Trump says he won't sign anything that doesn't fund his wall...This has turned into a game of chicken. problem is while some gov't workers will get backpay for the shutdown, some are still required to work and *will not* get backpay.
Trump does show his Baby-Behavior side too often now. Being that stubborn and riding on the backbones of the Goverment workers will create disagreement with his policy. No Chief should negotiate based on the well or bad of his employees with 3rd party guys. This is one of the biggest failures a chief can make.

Yesterday there was another negotiation about the wall where the top dogs of Democrats met with him. It was said he was asking if they gonna support his wall. The answer was no. They said, he stood up and left the room very angry. He need a training with Angela Merkel: sit and look, sit and look, sit and look, ...years later...consider eventually now the possible case of doing a decision, consider eventually now the possible case of doing a decision, consider eventually...Trump bangs his head on the wall of his deadend road he created himself. We will see how thick that wall is...he solve it maybe by getting a headache to get out of it by sick leave...LOL :D

Watched it now, was the most painful 10min on Youtube ever lol...I really didn't realize that the situation is this bad in the States. I guess living in the 3rd World had me thinking it can't be so bad. I was sorely mistaken
Mmmmhhhh...wasn't yesterday an election in the Kongo, where today no one believes the votes where counted correctly? But yes teamx, this Trump creates actually his political grave. Maybe the media now take it as it is and don't interpret smart strategies into his Bullsh...it talk. I have the feeling only the caberetists understand that this guy isn't smart, he is just straight in using well doing methods in overrunning people, which may work in business, but are dangerous on the political parquet.
 

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... I have the feeling only the caberetists understand that this guy isn't smart, he is just straight in using well doing methods in overrunning people, which may work in business, but are dangerous on the political parquet.
Lol yes a regular occurrence in African countries, I suspect we will have our first incident of this later this year when we go to the polls for our General Election.

Trump's success in business is based on inheriting a company that was too big to fail, no matter how hard he tried lol. Multiple enterprises ended in bankruptcy, the only thing saving him was the core business of real estate his father built. Most of what he has tried himself has resulted in failure. To this day no one actually knows what his wealth is, as he hasn't released tax records nor is his business a public entity, so the actual state is unknown. Much like everything in his presidency, his success is self proclaimed without any substantiation.
 

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...Much like everything in his presidency, his success is self proclaimed without any substantiation.
Indeed, this situation and his workout on it is one of the biggest evidences of that.

I was asking before, who of the Democrats can compete with Trump. I repeat it, because talking about Trump is talk of yesterday. Let us talk about the future. What about Kamala Harris, Democrat, Senator coming from California, Book editor, ex-attorny and I find her interesting?

https://youtu.be/eakG43Ai2gk
 

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Sooo the wall is more important than people feeding their family.... keep shutting down going and see how much people are going to hate him. Sure way to lose. Even thumpster gotta eat.
 

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...even thumpster gotta eat.
I don't know what a Thumpster is, but yes this is a sky screaming injustice. Trump still crawls around without solution. Graham showed him a bypass to calm down his staff. Will he do a sort of stepwise stop of shutdown and keep his fingers away from a brainless use of a fiscal emergency (not sure if this is the right wording, but it is the biggest nonsense leverarm ever Trump will use to negotiate a nonsense wall)?
 

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Indeed, this situation and his workout on it is one of the biggest evidences of that.

I was asking before, who of the Democrats can compete with Trump. I repeat it, because talking about Trump is talk of yesterday. Let us talk about the future. What about Kamala Harris, Democrat, Senator coming from California, Book editor, ex-attorny and I find her interesting?

https://youtu.be/eakG43Ai2gk
You have to remember that Trump is not the problem. He is a symptom. What is wrong in this country that someone like trump could take over the republican party and even become president. People were angry, frustrated and wanted change. Good or bad, he was the only one saying something different.

Maybe next election, people will be angry enough to do something better.
 
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