[DC2K20A]

Is the Euro civic type r engine the same as the ITR engine? IS there any difference?

 

[correll]

The civic type R is a 1.6L motor and the integra type R is a 1.8L

and I think the ITR has higher compression ratio than the CTR

 

[jon v]

The civic type R is a 1.6L motor and the integra type R is a 1.8L

and I think the ITR has higher compression ratio than the CTR

Right...

I think we are talking K series here correct?

I am pretty sure, they are the same. I think they have some small difference's but pretty much the same...

Nikos?

 

[nikos]

THe japanese Civic type r and integra type r are exactly the same. The only reason why honda in japan shows them with 5 hp difference is that the header is different since they are in different cars and some minor differences in the ecu.

Also, the civit type r has an electric power steering pump, that is why it has an idler pulley instead of the power steeting pulley.

 

[nikos]

The euro Civic type r has the rsx type s engine.. k20a2 with very minor differences.

 

[correll]

THe japanese Civic type r and integra type r are exactly the same. The only reason why honda in japan shows them with 5 hp difference is that the header is different since they are in different cars and some minor differences in the ecu.

Also, the civit type r has an electric power steering pump, that is why it has an idler pulley instead of the power steeting pulley.

oh... I was talking about the older CTR vs. ITR

 

[DC2K20A]

Does the Euro civc type r comes with LSD? IS there a big difference between the Euro and the JDM?

 

[db8us]

Does the Euro civc type r comes with LSD? IS there a big difference between the Euro and the JDM?

From what i understood the Euro has NO LSD.
The JDM has it and it has around 20HP more.

 

[nikos]

Does the Euro civc type r comes with LSD? IS there a big difference between the Euro and the JDM?

euro Civic type r= Rsx type S engine 2002-2004

 

[98specR]

that's basically like the jdm ctr.

 

[wong]

The euro Civic type r has the rsx type s engine.. k20a2 with very minor differences.

What's difference between the k20a2 and the k20a J-spec found in the CTR and ITR?
Also can someone direct me with a link to with a list of all the things I need to drop a k20a2 into a old 93 civic HB? I know this swap isn't a direct drop and it's costly [how much?] but I've been trying to search on here and on Honda-Tech for a write up or a basic explination or even a FAQ on this topic but couldn't find anything specific enough. Sorry for the dumb questions.. new to engines.

 

[Uneek4L]

What's difference between the k20a2 and the k20a J-spec found in the CTR and ITR?
Also can someone direct me with a link to with a list of all the things I need to drop a k20a2 into a old 93 civic HB? I know this swap isn't a direct drop and it's costly [how much?] but I've been trying to search on here and on Honda-Tech for a write up or a basic explination or even a FAQ on this topic but couldn't find anything specific enough. Sorry for the dumb questions.. new to engines.

Look on the main page man there is a forum just for EG civic swaps.... but just incase you are slow.... jp... http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=745 there are pdf's there with all the swap info. All depends on what motor you decide to buy. Price is hard to estimate since it depends on where you get your parts. Id say it could get done for under 6000 no problem if you take your time and look for parts... later bro

 

[tp]

From what i understood the Euro has NO LSD.
The JDM has it and it has around 20HP more.

Hi. My first post here. Nice place you have and some cracking information. :dance:

I have a Euro Civic-Type R and the differences between the Jap JDM and ours is as follows:

No LSD
Different intake manifold
Different exhaust manifold
JDM cams in the JDM (ITR) we have std
High compression pistons in the JDM
Gerbox ratios are different

This gives about 20bhp over the UK Spec car.
They are however very easy as you know to modify and I'm currently running 160ft/lb torque and 213bhp measured on the Abbey Dynapack. All with standard internals I might add.

I drag race the car and am currently the quickest NA Civic with a 14.2 @ 102mph. As you can imagine there has been quite a lot of work done to the car to get these results.

And the big news.....I just received the first K2's in the UK so they will be going in shortly. Expect to see bigger bhp gains and faster 1/4 mile times.

 

[05dc5]

:up: wow

 

[TODA]

Hi there!!

The Euro/Swedish CTR has NO LSD and the engine is identical to the RSX 200 bhp besides as above, it has electric power steering.

Maybe the transmission gearing is different to, here is a chart for the Swedish tranny:

1: 3,266
2: 2,13
3: 1,517
4: 1,147 (JDM CTR 1.212)
5: 0,921 (JDM CTR 0.972)
6: 0,738 (JDM CTR 0.780)
Reverse 3,583
Final Drive 4,764

 

[iwilson]

In additional the JDM K20A uses a wideband O2 sensor and the K20A2 a narrow band.

 

[joestypes]

In additional the JDM K20A uses a wideband O2 sensor and the K20A2 a narrow band.

Wrong, sorry come again. The K20A2 also uses a factory wideband O2 sensor. As does the JDM K20A


The Euro CTR Shares the K20A2 MOTOR and the K20A tranny IIRC.

The JDM CTR and ITR are THE EXACT SAME. There are NO differences to the tranny or the longblock. They use different headers and as was mentioned before the CTR uses EPS.

 

[iwilson]

Nope. The Euro Civic Type R (K20A2) uses a narrow band O2 sensor. The RSX and JDM use a wideband. The gearboxes may be identical but the ratio's are not. Again I'm referring to the Euro Type R not the RSX.

K20A2 (Euro Civic type R)
1st 3.267 : 1
2nd 2.130 : 1
3rd 1.517 : 1
4th 1.147 : 1
5th 0.921 : 1
6th 0.738 : 1

K20A (JDM)
1st 3.267 : 1
2nd 2.130 : 1
3rd 1.517 : 1
4th 1.212 : 1
5th 0.972 : 1
6th 0.780 : 1