[Dopes6070]

Ok so I know I don’t have many posts on here but I figured I would let everyone here know about my issue. I have had a WaveTrac LSD for about 2 months and recently I developed a very small leak from the drivers side axle seal. So I figured I would pull the axle and install a new seal. It should have been less then a 1 hour job but after trying for 2 hours to get the axle out I gave up and called Autotech Driveline. Apparently the first few LSDs that they made had this problem and they are going to take care of the LSD but now I'm stuck with all the leg work pulling the trans back out and taking it apart again. Just thought I would give everyone a heads up to make sure you check them before you install it so you can avoid all the extra work.

Build thread with more info:
http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9771&page=11

 

[BuiltRSX]

did you ever get it out? I use a pickle fork to remove my axles, works like a charm, and if that dont work, I have broken the end of my exle off in the diff before, and take a long pung skinny enough to slip through the axle if you are able to get one of the out, and the take a hammer and tap it out.

 

[Dopes6070]

Nope not yet I’m going to have to pull the trans tomorrow. I tried a 3 foot pry bar along with pounding a pickle fork in with a rather large sledge. All I succeeded in doing is putting a few dings in the case so I gave up on that. And to make matters worse, a punch can’t be used from the other axle hole because the "wave pack" thing in the center of the diff blocks the axle. Ive gotten axles out of an OBX diff much easier then this one thats for sure...

 

[i-VTEC racer]

I was in your situation twice, the first time took 2 hrs to get the axle out with a pickle fork--had to replace the C-clip on the axle. after we got it out! The second time the axle broke inside the wavetrac diff, had to weld a bolt and used a slide hammer. This took half a day. In both stituations it helped by turning the axle a little bit and then prying it or whacking the pickle fork with a good sized hammer, always wedge the fork on to a bolt/bracket or the drain plug never on the actual casing. I think this has something to do with the C-clip and the way the wavetrac was machined. Hope this helps. GL

 

[rookiepains]

get a long pry bar and heavy mallot, hammer, sledge hammer.
put the pry bar on the axle as if you r gonna chip away at it and beat that summabitch out. the problem is the bevel cut on th splines in the lsd.

 

[Dopes6070]

Well I have tried everything even a slide hammer so I left the CV cup attached and pulled the trans. I seriously cant get the thing out at all. and the wavetrac diff doesnt have a hole in the middle so I cant use a punch through the other axle hole... I dunno, im pretty close to just using a sawsall to cut the CV cup away

 

[BuiltRSX]

Dude, I have never really heard of Wavetrak, but after this thread and the few issues others posted bout it, this company should be put out, that is terrible. Prob worse product on the market, wow. Sorry man.

 

[Dopes6070]

Well Autotech Driveline is the company that used to import Quafie LSD's but since the price of those kept going up they decided to design their own (the Wavetrac). Honestly I had an OBX before and the traction is much better with the Wavetrac unit. And they are going to fix/replace my LSD so im not super upset about it but it does suck ass. Supposedly it was only the first few LSDs that they sent out.

 

[Dopes6070]

Well I had no luck at all messing with it a bit more today so I'm gonna drive the transmission down there tomorrow during my lunch since I work pretty close to where their located. Ill let you all know what the outcome of the visit is tomorrow.

 

[hondaluver]

Quafie ftw

 

[Dopes6070]

Autotech now has the transmission so it will be interesting to see what happens from here.

 

[hawaiiancb74]

i wana see what happens.

 

[Dopes6070]

Supposedly they got the CV joint out without damaging it but I wont be able to get down there to see for sure till Monday. So ill update you guys again at that time.

 

[sirtifiedacc]

Let us know when you get some results.. I was just thinking about ordering one of these and after reading this thread, I'm starting to 2nd guess..

 

[Dopes6070]

I called them today and I got more info from them. The story seems to have changed just a bit. Turns out they had to weld a slide hammer to the CV joint and get it out that way so they are waiting for a new CV joint to arrive before they give it to me. I am planning to go down there today to see the progress. I did like the diff when it was in but Ive had no car for over a week so this is getting pretty annoying.

 

[sirtifiedacc]

Yeah bro that sucks, it makes me wonder if spending the extra $150-200 on the Quaife (over the Wavetrac) is worth it.. However.. the problem with that is that IF, and thats a big "IF" something goes wrong, Autotech will replace the damaged quaife w/ a Wavetrac. I haven't had experience with either LSD, but I would definitely prefer it to be as maintenance free as possible.

I see in your 1st post, that you said it was kind of a 1st batch production issue. How long have you had your Wavetrac? I'm just curious to see if Autotech withdrew all the defective units and quarantined them, or if their still in the open market and in the hands of independent vendors.

 

[Dopes6070]

I bought it on January 3rd and it was drop shipped directly from them. They said it has been fixed in the new units but I would DEFINATLY call them to make sure you will get a fixed one if your gonna buy one.

 

[sirtifiedacc]

alright, I appreciate the tip, and goodluck with yours. If i were you I would also consider asking them for a new one verses refurbing yours. Also in your build thread, there was a thread that you recommended on CRSX in regards to inspecting LSDs, I've searched to no avail and couldnt find it.. could you provide a link?

 

[Dopes6070]

The thread is for checking out an OBX diff before putting it in. That shouldnt be needed with any high quality differential... I'm not even sure it would have helped in my case because I probably wouldnt have been able to tell visually that there was a problem with the splines.

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=520556&highlight=obx+lsd

 

[Dopes6070]

alright, I appreciate the tip, and goodluck with yours. If i were you I would also consider asking them for a new one verses refurbing yours. Also in your build thread, there was a thread that you recommended on CRSX in regards to inspecting LSDs, I've searched to no avail and couldnt find it.. could you provide a link?

Im not worried about the LSD as long as the gear that had the bad splines was replaced it wont be an issue so there is no sense asking for a new one. I did get the transmission back today along with the "fixed" lsd. Im gonna pop the axle in and see how hard it is to remove before I put it back in the trans case.