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With an amazing 231 whp at 7600 rpm and 186ft-lbs torque , this civic has made an important point in the K series community. The car was tuned and dynoed at http://www.redzoneperformance.com

1992 Civic
Block 2004 TSX k24a2 block with only 1000 miles
Head K20A Integra Type-R
Tranmission K20A Integra Type-R
dtr-fab header
Custom Cold Air Intake
AEM Regulator
stock injectors
Hondata K-Pro


Dyno Sheet



Tune started based on the TSX calibration in K pro, and took about 1-2 hours.

The results speak from themselves. Check back for 1/4 mile updates.

If you are interested in buying a similar new TSX motor, email me at [email protected] Price would be around 1900 shipped anywhere in the continental US.
 

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dam thats tight...how much u think it cost for that same set up... :up:
 

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this the one u built??

also does it matter if its a auto block or 6 speed block?

whats the compression ratio est??

that is some freakin power :confused:
 

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aroun 6000-7000 + labor

TSX motor $2000 shipped New - from me :p email me for details
Ep3 alternator and starter $120
Ep3 tranny $500
rsx type s engine harness $150
rsx type s manifold $100
rsx type s TB $200
rsx type s axles $100
B series axles $80
Fuel crap $250
misc crap $200 (bolts, betls, gaskets, fluids etc..)
Mounts $499
Wiring -Free _Learn how to read or $350
Honda K pro $800
Header $1000
shifter+ cables $150
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$around $6000+ for a 2.4 L all motor swap that dynoes 220whp at 6900 with more torque than any other b/h/k in stock form.

Notice how the $6000 includes one of the best headers and the best engine management system for k series right now.
 

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$around $6000+ for a 2.4 L all motor swap that dynoes 220whp at 6900 with more torque than any other b/h/k in stock form.

Notice how the $6000 includes one of the best headers and the best engine management system for k series right now.
that doesnt include the k20a head or tranny right?
 

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includes a non LSD 5 speed or 6 speed tranny
the k20a head is very very similar to the tsx. So yeah, it includes that.. Look at the list.
 

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Sorry I am confused. I am not sure what you are asking and who "he" is? me or him? lol

Anyway, the point is that you can get close to these number with a TSX head and block all stock.

The $6000-$7000 estimate includes everything you would need to swap it in a eg/ek/dc2. Of course once the tsx motors run out, the price of them will go up since they used to go for more money.. around $4000 but because of that accident the market couldn't handle so many of them sitting around so the price went down.. simple supply and demand. I am getting my TSX , first thing in the morning on Monday, so I am going to post some pics etc.. It is going into my 92 civic. Needless to say, I am really excited.
 

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Holy balls...thats some freakin serious numbers for a stockie. Damn you people... Thank god noone has bought my accord yet...I wouldn't know what the hell to buy. Damn it.

The more I think about it though, the more I think I'm goin K20a swap, then building a K24 bottom to handle some rev as the next upgrade.
 

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that is why I like it though.. because the stock k24a bottom can do the same job as lower rpm.. so the piston is working at the same speed when:

the k24a is at 7600 rpm = 4937.008 Feet Per Minute

the k20a is at 8750 rpm = 4937.66 Feet Per Minute

So assuming they make the same power, who needs more help to handle the revs?
 

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^Exactly, but I think many dyno charts show that the 2.4 combo wants to continue to make power. Increase the rpm at which peak hp is produced, one of the four basic approaches to increasing output.
 

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I am seriously interested in this swap....


how do you put the K20a head on there? is there a lot of modification involved in doing so?

how much of a difference would a 6 speed make?

will the JDM LSD 6 spd tranny bolt up to the TSX motor?

has anyone looked into Rods and pistons? what about cam combos? are they being prototyped or not?


this motor is making me more and more interested in Honda again, im ready to go buy an EG hatch and do this swap the right way.

Nikos, how long will the sale of the TSSX engines stay that low and why are they that low in the first place...i heard someone mention an accident...what accident?

Dave
 

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Great numbers. Nikos since the K20A(2) head and the K24A2 head are just about the same, could you use crower's stage 2/3 cams or IPS-K2 cams for the K24A2 head???? What about Twm's ITB's on the K24A2?????

Also nikos rasing the revs will yeild more power so what would you raise it to??? I was thinking at least 8500rpm.....what do you think????
 

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Great numbers. Nikos since the K20A(2) head and the K24A2 head are just about the same, could you use crower's stage 2/3 cams or IPS-K2 cams for the K24A2 head???? What about Twm's ITB's on the K24A2?????
Yes, yes and yes. IPS has already posted that they work. I assume crower would too. ITbs would work. The type s manifold bolts on the k24a head so, it owuld work since the itbs replace the type s manifold.

Also nikos rasing the revs will yeild more power so what would you raise it to??? I was thinking at least 8500rpm.....what do you think????
That would seriously put the stock bottom end in a big risk.. I have seen someone revving to 8200 , but do it more than a few times... I donl;t think it owuld be a good idea.. With after market rods and sleeves... maybe but still the pistons speeds are pretty high.. I know Skunk2 does it but they also have a 100K+ car...


am seriously interested in this swap....

how do you put the K20a head on there? is there a lot of modification involved in doing so?
No need to put the head. They are the same. You can try the type r cams if you want. Only modifcation required is to block that water port.

how much of a difference would a 6 speed make?

will the JDM LSD 6 spd tranny bolt up to the TSX motor?
yes it will. I am going to use a 5 speed though to get the car running and later on add the 6th gear and LSD.

has anyone looked into Rods and pistons? what about cam combos? are they being prototyped or not?
They are already availalbe. Same size as the the other k24a blocks. The tsx block is almost identical.. Ony main difference is it has oil squirters. The highest compression of the tsx motor comes from the piston.

Nikos, how long will the sale of the TSSX engines stay that low and why are they that low in the first place...i heard someone mention an accident...what accident?
Until all are sold, there are around 30-50 left.. not sure. At this time I have access to 24 of them. A train derailed carrying 100+ tsx cars so that is why the motor supply went up and demand went down along with price. I can show you a post before the accident on honda tech, they were selling for $4000 with the tsx tranny that cannot be used anyway with the mounts
 

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Yes, yes and yes. IPS has already posted that they work.

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The highest compression of the tsx motor comes from the piston.
TSX valve spring seats (locators) will not accomodate the appropriate valve train to run aftermarket cams of your choice. The piston valve reliefs are shallower than PRB and PRC, thus limiting max VTC advance to 40 degrees with our cams. This is made possible by either running a modified TSX/CRV/Accord/Element VTC sprocket (limited to 25 degrees mechanically on the stock piece) or a K20A(2).

We haven't dyno tested our cams in a stock TSX motor yet, but it's on the list with no ETA.

-Ron
 

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We haven't dyno tested our cams in a stock TSX motor yet, but it's on the list with no ETA.

-Ron
if we get our act together and start putting the car together, we'll help you out with the Dyno testing. :up:
 
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