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Been working with HASport for over two years building a mount kit for the 84-87 CRX/Civic. They are finally done so off to swap we go. All loaded up and heading to HASport to document the swap!

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Back story on the car. I purchased it in 1992 as my daily and daily drove it until 2002. I started racing it in SCCA Solo2 events in 1994. In 1998 HASport was just starting out and contacted me about swapping my car to a B16 for Sport Compact Car Magazine. going from a 100whp 1.5L single cam to a 150whp 1.6L twin cam was a huge power change.

A few years later stared participating in NASA HPDE and time attack events. First event out came in 3rd place, not to bad. This was at an event held at Phoenix International Raceway.

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After a few years I realized while being classed by power to weight the low torque of the B16 was not helping me. I needed more displacement so I started speaking with my friends at HASport about a B18C swap when Brian said let’s just K swap it. So because the process of developing the mount kit and sourcing parts.

Big parts going in are a JDM K24a 3 lobe and JDM RSX 5 speed. Motor will be kept stock with RBB manifold but there are a few upgrades. Manifold and Accord 60mm cable TB were sent to King Motorsports to be opened up to 64mm. Have 50 deg VTC, 4 Piston Type S oil pump and Unit 2 baffled oil pan. Trans got a KAAZ. 1.5 LSD. Using a Hybrid Racing no cut shifter box and cables. K tuned header and some other parts.

in prep for the upgrade in power i had to move up from the 15x7 with 205s that I have used for years. New setup is 15x9 245s up front and 15x8 225s in the rear. Also upgraded to a Fast Brakes 11” rotor with Wilwood calipers and Hawk pads.

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we started pulling the B16 out Wednesday and will wrap it up this Saturday. Plan is to also prep for the K swap this Saturday as well. Then the following week put the motor in.
 

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that is going to be a blast to drive. K24 in a CRX has tons of torque.
IF you fancy it, even a simple JRSC or CT-E supercharger and like 3-4PSI of boost gets you easily over 300hp with even more torque.
 

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That would be an easy way to move up to the next class for sure. They class us by power to weight ratio, so you want to max that. Depending on fuel level the car, with me in it, comes in at 2165 to 2200. So I will need to limit my power output to probably 215 at the wheels to be safe. Should be nice and easy and motor will not be stressed doing that. Should live a long time like my B16 has. I will, however, have a max power tune for it as well for the street. Just to make it more fun on those occasions!

these 1st gens are so light compared to other Hondas. I still have a full interior in the car, a radio and 4 factory located speakers. Nice to listen to tunes in staging. I plan on removing the Sun Roof, it’s about 40lbs and in the highest point in the car. I have the roof off a non Sun Roof equipped car to reskin it with. Then we can put that weight lower and somewhere it can improve corner balance.
 

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Been working with HASport for over two years building a mount kit for the 84-87 CRX/Civic. They are finally done so off to swap we go. All loaded up and heading to HASport to document the swap!
Very nice. I am seeking for a ED9 (Honda CRX) chassis to K-swap. The ED engine hood is very low for the K-series engine, especially for the DAMPFHAMMER IM. Did you manage to have enough clearance under the hood as well as for the IM? Or did you do an EE8 front swap to regain some hood clearance?
 

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The 84-87 CRX actually has better clearance than the 88-91 CRX. The nose slopes less so we have lots of room. The K20 and K24 both fit with no modifications to the hood. The only issue, due to it being shorter, is you have to get ride of the stock hood latch and go to hood pins.

I know someone here in the US is working on a hood for the 88-91 that gives more clearance.
 

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The 84-87 CRX actually has better clearance than the 88-91 CRX.
I plan to meet a guy who sells his '90 CRX. The chassis is a '90 preface ED9, still no EE8 with a B16 hood.

I know someone here in the US is working on a hood for the 88-91 that gives more clearance.
I believe there are already carbon fibre hoods available here in Europe or Japan. I know one of my friends hate them and warned me not to look for them :D.
 

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B16 and all of its swap components are out of the car. Thursday the plan is to prep the K24. Install the 4 Pistons Type S oil pump, 50 Degree VTC, new seals, flywheel, clutch and a few other odds and ends. The a little prep to the bay and weld in the mounts.

Play is by end of next weekend motor is resting in the car.
 

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B16 and all of its swap components are out of the car
Sounds good. The oil pump swap is for future power tasks?

very nice! I love the CRX!
I am too. I spoke yesterday with an guy selling a complete restored CRX '92 EE8 chassis. He worked on it over 5 years and now he is exhausted about it. A possible deal for me.
 

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Pump swap Is for a couple of reasons.
  • lighter
  • works with the baffled pan
  • will help with getting a few more rpm’s up top when needed.

hope you are able to strike a deal! Sounds great!
 

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what kind of intake manifold gasket are you running? oem metal or other?

I like to spray Kroil on the TB springs and shaft... smells good too lol...

I hope Markus finds a CRX. They are little go-karts. All the more reason to make it easier on parts with less weight to handle... It has a oh crap I am in rocket feeling....
 

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OEM gaskets. I have deleted the IAC from the TB with a block off plate I made. Should help keeping some heat out of it. If I find that the manifold is getting too hot I will go back and add a thermal style gasket.
 

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Why do you recommend that? If there is no coolant running through it, it will not work. In the Hondata KPro I can set it so it knows it’s not there.
 

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it will work perfectly fine without the water supply. The coolant flow is only a measure to ensure it and the rest of the TB does not freeze up in winter driving conditions. I guess you won’t drive the car in freezing temps anyhow.


The IACV offers perfect cold start, cold idle and warm idle. That is why I don’t see the point in removing it.
 

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hope you are able to strike a deal! Sounds great!
I hope Markus finds a CRX. They are little go-karts. All the more reason to make it easier on parts with less weight to handle... It has a oh crap I am in rocket feeling....
Thanks guys. I am looking forward and will do my best to get it.

One of the CRX owners compared the "Fuchs-Röhre" entrance like this. "If I ride the CRX I slightly lift of the pedal because of the ride more indefinite feeling, when I run that with the Renault Megan I keep it floored even on higher corner exit speed...". The CRX is like the Lotus maybe not the best high speed track car but definitely a kind of lightweight AutoX, hill climb and mountain street DD car. That is what I am looking for.
 

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I guess you mean undefined feeling
The CRX is a little light at the rear, especially at speed. Makes it nimble for AutoX, but on a high speed track it benefits from some aero aids.

Jeff Cooper now has an elise beside a few other cars.
He raced a K20a CRX for a few years equipped with ITBs. Stock bottom end.

 

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I will keep that in mind. Doesn’t get that cold here in AZ but if it does still help with idle and not go it some kind of odd cycle, may be worth while.
 

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I guess you mean undefined feeling
I meant indefinite, as he told the connection feeling to the track is not as clear as with the Renault Megane.

Jeff Cooper now has an elise beside a few other cars.
Nice driving skills, fast where fast is needed and accurate in steering.
 
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