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Most of you have seen or heard the news about the 06 civic. It is going to carry the k20a2 or the k20z but most likely it is going to be K series motor.
Finally, honda is exploring a new market.

Here's something I read on SEMA.org

CHICAGO, Ill. (February 10, 2005) – SEMA, the Specialty Equipment Market Association, announced that American Honda will increase its support of the automotive specialty market by participating as the Vehicle Manufacturer of the 2005 SEMA Show. The announcement came during the SEMA press conference at the Chicago Auto Show.

“It has been quite some time since SEMA has had the pleasure to announce a new Vehicle Manufacturer of the SEMA Show,” said Christopher J. Kersting, SEMA President and CEO. “American Honda Motor Company has been a long-time participant in various SEMA initiatives that help increase the variety and ready availability of specialty parts and accessories for Honda vehicles. We are predicting the synergy between Honda and our 2005 exhibitors will be extremely powerful.”



So, my question is... There is no point selling the rsx and civic at the same time... So the RSX most likely is going to become something else.. like a 2 door tsx or something... What do you think? Does it still make sense swaping a k20a2 into a EG/EK when you can buy a 2005 civic with a k20a2?
 

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Yup... It's all about the power to weight. and I don't care for the sh**ty macpherson struts... :down:

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Well i think even though they will be sharing the same engine platform they will be used for different reasons. If you look at the acura, it looks like the Rsx type-S is more luxury/perfomance while the civic on the other hand looks to be something it lost in these past couple of years. That boy racer looks that seems to be the trend....just my opinon on the matter...
 

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There's no door handles on that car...I was looking closely at that car, and it seems to me it could be a 3D rendor. The rims look drawn. But still very nice looking.

That would be something of a conflict of interest to develop 2 cars with identical engines. Perphaps we can expect something similar to the B18a/b line, sort of like a toned down k20a2, but not quite to the point of the k20a3, has the civic (in the US market) ever had a better engine in it compared to the Integra? I read somewhere of a rumor of a 200hp civic, ie the 06' model. But either way, I'm very excited about whats to come!
 

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I was just about to say that too nikos, how many "concept" cars actually make it to the dealership looking the way it does at the auto show?????

I don't know any and I've been to hundreds of auto shows.
 

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nikos said:
So, my question is... There is no point selling the rsx and civic at the same time... So the RSX most likely is going to become something else.. like a 2 door tsx or something... What do you think? Does it still make sense swaping a k20a2 into a EG/EK when you can buy a 2005 civic with a k20a2?
new civic Si around 20grand ive or take ...if im wrong let me know then you have a payment everyone month and higher insurance ...EG/EK/DC/EF 1500+ k20a2 3000+ and all the other misc. stuff you need to get the swap running you can still keep it under that the Si's price tag and still keep your insurance rate low :up: ...thats just how i look at it ...
 

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My honda sources tell me that it will be very similar.. Maybe not the black hood and all... but Honda USA is going another direction.. I know how many times we heard of the ctr coming here and all... But this is for real.
 

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Well, nikos, look what JDM2ndGEN just said. It makes a lot of sense!!!!
 

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This is the Civic we saw at the Geneva show not too long ago.

note 1 : the one we saw was red

note 2 : when I mean we, I meant collegues of mine who were lucky enough to go. I didn't get any specs unfortunetly.
 

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2005 Chicago Auto Show - Civic Si Concept debut Remarks for John Mendel

Good morning and thank you for joining us here today. My name is John Mendel and I'm the new guy. This is my first time to stand in front of you representing Honda and I'm excited to be here and to share with you some very exciting news about the future of Honda.

Let me start by talking a little about our overall sales and product picture. Last year, Honda posted its ninth consecutive year of record sales and launched two new models - an all-new Odyssey minivan and the Accord Hybrid. I'm pleased to report that both models are off to a great start.

Sales of the new Odyssey are up 20 percent since October, and our customers are telling us how much they love the new features, styling and luxury-sedan like performance of the new Odyssey.

The Accord hybrid, our third hybrid model is selling as fast as we can make them. Sales of our hybrids were up 18 percent last year and we expect to nearly double those results in 2005.

Speaking of 2005, we expect to be every bit as competitive as 2004. We're looking forward to the continued success of our new car and truck models to deliver another record year for Honda, with sales around 1.25 million units.

Two models that will play a critical role in delivering these results for 2005 are the all-new Ridgeline truck and a completely new Civic. I hope that some of you saw the debut of our Ridgeline advertising at the Superbowl on Sunday. For those of you who missed it, here's an ad called "Buckles" that speaks to the unique capabilities and innovation of Honda's new truck.

The Ridgeline goes on sale March 1 and judging by the reaction from our dealers and customers, we're confident we can hit our target of 50,000 units in the first 12 months of sales.

And while we continue to grow our truck sales, we remain committed to leadership on the car side of the business. To that end, we're looking forward to the launch of an all-new, completely re-engineered Civic lineup beginning with the introduction of a new 4-door sedan and 2-coupe this fall. You know... since its introduction in 1973, the Civic has exemplified the core attributes of all Honda products: great value, great ergonomics, fun-to-drive character and of course world-class durability, quality and reliability.

Civic has also led the way on environmental innovation including the first car to meet California's Low Emissions and Ultra-Low Emissions standards. And the first truly mainstream gas-electric hybrid vehicle, the Civic Hybrid. The Civic has also led the industry in safety. The current model Coupe is the first and only compact class car to earn a five star/five-star rating in both frontal and side impact testing.

Importantly, the Civic has always struck a balance between the needs of the customer and the needs of society. And it's done so while appealing to a wide variety of customers, from mainstream buyers attracted to its thoughtful design, terrific value and long-term reliability; to young, performance-oriented enthusiasts who appreciate Honda's world-class engine technology and the racing spirit that is present in virtually every product we build. It's the reason more than 6.6 million buyers have chosen Civic, now in its ninth year as America's best-selling compact-class car.

The 2006 Civic builds on this tradition with new technology and a new platform that delivers enhancements in virtually every area of its performance. Both the Sedan and Coupe will feature the latest generation of our intelligent VTEC technology that improves performance while setting a new standard for fuel efficiency and low emissions in the compact class.

Futhermore, a new Civic Hybrid will apply this same i-VTEC technology in combination with our IMA hybrid system to deliver even higher levels of performance and efficiency. And in keeping with our commitment to Safety for Everyone, this new Civic will apply a core suite of advanced safety features as standard equipment on all models. This includes anti-lock brakes, advanced front, side and side curtain airbags and our ACE body structure.

Simply put, the Civic will be the safest car in its class, bar none. Of course, the Civic has also played an important role in communicating the racing spirit of Honda. And this new Civic is no exception.

Later in the year, we'll launch an all-new Civic Si Coupe. The Si has long served as the performance halo for the whole Civic lineup and as the object of desire for thousands of performance-minded Civic enthusiasts. This new Si is no exception. This hot new Honda is being developed by our colleagues at R&D Americas right down the road in Raymond, Ohio. And it promises to be the fastest, most powerful and most fun-to-drive Civic we've ever put on the street.

So today we thought it might be fun to give you a bit of a preview of what this new high performance Civic is all about. So, let's take a look at the Civic Si Concept.

Here it is. The future of Civic, and Civic performance. Although this is just a concept vehicle, it gives a very strong indication of where we're headed with the new Coupe and Coupe Si in terms of styling and the overall package. It's 90 percent of what you'll see when the production models debut later this year. It's an advanced new look that speaks to the more emotional, aggressive and fun-to-drive nature of the new Civic.

Of course, the Si is about more than just the styling. That's why this concept boasts a 200-horsepower 16-valve DOHC i-VTEC engine, the most powerful motor we've ever put in a U.S. model Civic. Of course it is a little too early for you to test drive this car, but we thought we would give you a taste of what it would sound like .....Not the kind of engine note that you expect to hear from a 4 cylinder Civic... huh?

Helping to put that power to the ground is a crisp close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission along with a limited slip differential for improved launch traction and cornering performance. The Si Concept also boasts 18-inch, high performance rubber and four-wheel disc brakes with four-piston Brembo calipers. 2006 will mark the 20th anniversary of the Si in America. And the 2006 Si Coupe will remain true to the legacy of the Si, delivering a new level of performance to the Civic lineup.

Although it's too early to get into all the details, I can tell you one thing for sure. This new Si will be fast, fun and full of what makes Civic, a Civic.

Now, as you all know, the performance aftermarket has played a big part in the image of Civic with young buyers and performance enthusiasts. After all, it was Civic that was there at the birth of the compact performance trend some twenty years ago, and Civic that still holds the largest share of this market today. So, as part of our marketing efforts for this new Civic lineup and for the Si in particular, we look forward to taking a big role in the event that serves as the epicenter of the tuner market, the annual SEMA show in Las Vegas.

I am pleased to announce for the first time here today that Honda will be participating in the 2005 SEMA show as Vehicle Manufacturer of the Show, a first for any Japanese manufacturer ... and the Civic is taking center stage as the Official Vehicle of the Show. As part of this effort, we'll make SEMA the venue for the world debut of the new Si in November. It's the perfect place to showcase this new Si and to tell the world of performance tuners and aftermarket sellers how excited we are about this new Civic.

We look forward to sharing more details of the Civic Si and the total Civic lineup with you in the months to come. Thank you for your attention this morning. Please come on up and take a close look at the Civic Si Concept. And after that I invite you to join us at the SEMA press conference immediately following.
 

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don't get me wrong this car is sexy as hell but: what are the chances it will look like that from factory? also i am into building a car from the ground up never have been interested in performance bought cars except for exotics. plus the insurance price is a plus as well.
 

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Here's the pics I got from the 2005 AJC auto show here in Atlanta last night!!









 

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I like the Brembo's, thats about it...
 

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eh, I'd rather wait until the Honda Fit (or Jazz, whatever its called nowadays) comes here and swap a K-series into that! :D 4 doors and weigh only 2000-2200lbs stock! (I think that's what I read somewhere)

But the new Civic SI looks badass :up:
 

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Wow what a change.

I like CIVICS but I don't think that concept is gonna sell. The EP3 did not do as well as they expected. I wouldn't buy the concept if I had the money. I wonder who honda is targeting. I have not seen many SI hatches, compared to the ACURA TL, and the new ACCORD. Those cars are everywhere. And they have more power. I don't really like the this new future look thing, maybe when its year 2087.
 
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