Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners - Page 2 - K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-07-2010, 06:44 PM   #21
Bossman
Lifetime Member
 
Bossman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tu Fi Foe
Posts: 19,965
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by allmotorek4 View Post
thanks to forms and people who bought and write a review on product. that video is the same thing that happen to one of the k20a.org member who wrote about his HR tensioner that fail . So I guess that where skunk2 got the ideal of maken a video showing they'er tensioner ... running on no oil pressure ....
so how many people run big cams with no oil pressure?..and there's no proof of anything other than a stock tensioner,a Skunk 2 tensioner and some other tensioner are used...if you can identify a tensioner by looking at it through the blurred out view then you have much better vision than me.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pulpmelon_r View Post
Why are you lol'ing?

You cannot mock some one for being fearful of an oppressive government when you are afraid of walking the streets with legal firearms around.
Quote:
Originally Posted by signalpuke View Post
I can't be the bad guy if you are the bad guy. Two bad guys is too many bad guys. :P
Bossman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-08-2010, 01:18 AM   #22
K20EF8
Lifetime Member
 
K20EF8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,437
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

AFAIK there are 4 tensioners
-OEM
-Skunk2
-Toda
-Hybrid Racing

Since IIRC the toda one is nothing more than an OEM tensioner with a stiffer spring inside, externally arent they the same? If yes then there would be no reason to hide its identity, its looks oem anyway. So in conclusion the other tensioner must be a hybrid one.
K20EF8 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 04:41 AM   #23
seek167
K20a.org Master User
 
seek167's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,691
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

i will redo this test i have all the tensioners but hybrids
i will show u the rpms the motor will reach with each tensioner
and any body that wants a certain cam tested let me know

i have a tsx motor for the mule
any body thats wants to send me stuff look around your stuff is in good hands
__________________
seekspeedshop.com is here

shirts are here
valve stems are here
if you need any new or used parts hit me i will try to beat any bodys price even if i dont make money just so i can gain a customer for life
seek167 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-08-2010, 06:36 AM   #24
Mr_Plenty
K20a.org Master User
 
Mr_Plenty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Rock City, V.I.
Posts: 1,486
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by K20EF8 View Post
AFAIK there are 4 tensioners
-OEM
-Skunk2
-Toda
-Hybrid Racing

Since IIRC the toda one is nothing more than an OEM tensioner with a stiffer spring inside, externally arent they the same? If yes then there would be no reason to hide its identity, its looks oem anyway. So in conclusion the other tensioner must be a hybrid one.
Hasty Generalization?
Inductive Reasoning?

I say this because you are not sure of what tensioner is being blurred out in the video. Not defending Hybrid-Racing, but defending the idea that this is a test to showcase a certain manufacturer in the lime light and others in a dim one.
__________________
VOUCHES: HNAperformance, civic5133, onefstek, civicmotorhead-1320WhtRex-#2, allmotora2, pb16b, tuner04civic, Stockcrx, BuiltRsx, 3k1n,*HAZARD*club
Mr_Plenty is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 07:39 AM   #25
Bossman
Lifetime Member
 
Bossman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tu Fi Foe
Posts: 19,965
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Plenty View Post
Hasty Generalization?
Inductive Reasoning?

I say this because you are not sure of what tensioner is being blurred out in the video. Not defending Hybrid-Racing, but defending the idea that this is a test to showcase a certain manufacturer in the lime light and others in a dim one.
and a test conducted by a company that has stake in the results...the main ingrediant for skewed testing results.

as far as people saying the Toda is nothing but an upgraded spring..I do believe there is a member on here who has had theirs on for something like 4 years...with no problems.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pulpmelon_r View Post
Why are you lol'ing?

You cannot mock some one for being fearful of an oppressive government when you are afraid of walking the streets with legal firearms around.
Quote:
Originally Posted by signalpuke View Post
I can't be the bad guy if you are the bad guy. Two bad guys is too many bad guys. :P
Bossman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 08:25 AM   #26
rbsjnh
K20a.org Master User
 
rbsjnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: selling out
Posts: 18,977
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Plenty View Post
[email protected] statement
i would have to question how many hybrid products have you owned that have failed?.....such a statement allows the ignorant enthusiast to draw ignorant conclusions.
what about the original hybrid conversion harness, released to the public, never worked, never tested, no r&d....overall great product

rbsjnh is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 09:20 AM   #27
allmotorek4
K20a.org Advanced User
 
allmotorek4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 916 norcal
Posts: 822
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by rbsjnh View Post
what about the original hybrid conversion harness, released to the public, never worked, never tested, no r&d....overall great product

lol... they are quick to come in and say hey send that back and we'll send you a new one @ no cost.. and then everyone is happy again... lol wtf is really? is it me or that seem to be the trend with them....
__________________
shortstop kseries07 HonkeyDongu rowbs2k rsxdc502 Cidone [email protected] siborg Jpax TYFOMOTO/NLM StonerTuning JDMTOKER k20buildinprogress greenhatchy purpej1 Brock tjs03si Qfactor vizhunz02si McCoy, edya, checokxx, sicKstee, Kingnacho83, 03K20A3Si allmotor93hatch JO_TECH
allmotorek4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 09:24 AM   #28
allmotorek4
K20a.org Advanced User
 
allmotorek4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 916 norcal
Posts: 822
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman View Post
so how many people run big cams with no oil pressure?..and there's no proof of anything other than a stock tensioner,a Skunk 2 tensioner and some other tensioner are used...if you can identify a tensioner by looking at it through the blurred out view then you have much better vision than me.
during start-up, when oil pressure is extremely low.

cold crank start buddy. and for people who lives/ drive around hills/mountains. all you really need to be is may be 1-1.5 quarts low. driving up,down,side to side @ one point in time your oil pressure will drop.
__________________
shortstop kseries07 HonkeyDongu rowbs2k rsxdc502 Cidone [email protected] siborg Jpax TYFOMOTO/NLM StonerTuning JDMTOKER k20buildinprogress greenhatchy purpej1 Brock tjs03si Qfactor vizhunz02si McCoy, edya, checokxx, sicKstee, Kingnacho83, 03K20A3Si allmotor93hatch JO_TECH
allmotorek4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 09:25 AM   #29
rbsjnh
K20a.org Master User
 
rbsjnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: selling out
Posts: 18,977
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by allmotorek4 View Post
lol... they are quick to come in and say hey send that back and we'll send you a new one @ no cost.. and then everyone is happy again... lol wtf is really? is it me or that seem to be the trend with them....
Its not just them, its is the majority or this industry...

Its the primary reason I will only buy from about 5 companies...if the companies I believe in don't make it, then I do not need it...

This industry is no longer products its a bout profits

And its very sad imho
rbsjnh is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 09:28 AM   #30
allmotorek4
K20a.org Advanced User
 
allmotorek4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 916 norcal
Posts: 822
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman View Post
Toda is nothing but an upgraded spring..I do believe there is a member on here who has had theirs on for something like 4 years...with no problems.
toda = ok.. s2 = ok, and your saying toda is ok.^ oem is almost the same as toda so that = ok. that leaves us with one brand left. hummm who is that popular aftermarket tensioners
__________________
shortstop kseries07 HonkeyDongu rowbs2k rsxdc502 Cidone [email protected] siborg Jpax TYFOMOTO/NLM StonerTuning JDMTOKER k20buildinprogress greenhatchy purpej1 Brock tjs03si Qfactor vizhunz02si McCoy, edya, checokxx, sicKstee, Kingnacho83, 03K20A3Si allmotor93hatch JO_TECH
allmotorek4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 09:41 AM   #31
allmotorek4
K20a.org Advanced User
 
allmotorek4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 916 norcal
Posts: 822
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by rbsjnh View Post
what about the original hybrid conversion harness, released to the public, never worked, never tested, no r&d....overall great product

hey i got a question about the hybrid racing... are they the same guys from back in the days who all got they're car jack? is that the same HR?
__________________
shortstop kseries07 HonkeyDongu rowbs2k rsxdc502 Cidone [email protected] siborg Jpax TYFOMOTO/NLM StonerTuning JDMTOKER k20buildinprogress greenhatchy purpej1 Brock tjs03si Qfactor vizhunz02si McCoy, edya, checokxx, sicKstee, Kingnacho83, 03K20A3Si allmotor93hatch JO_TECH
allmotorek4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 11:35 AM   #32
Bossman
Lifetime Member
 
Bossman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tu Fi Foe
Posts: 19,965
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

I find it funny that ONE person had a problem with their HR tensioner and all of a sudden it's a crappy product.funny how noone mentiones the dude that had the rachet teth stripped off his Skunk2 tensioner....(there is/was a thread about it and as a result Skunk 2 upgraded their rachet's material or something)
Concerning oil level....if you have low oil pressure because of low oil level then regardless of what tensioner you have you are inviting disaster.You really should be checking your oil ever fillup,I know I do.

Oem tensioners have failed in as little as a dozen trips down the strip with aggressive,poorly designed cams coughskunk2coughcough.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pulpmelon_r View Post
Why are you lol'ing?

You cannot mock some one for being fearful of an oppressive government when you are afraid of walking the streets with legal firearms around.
Quote:
Originally Posted by signalpuke View Post
I can't be the bad guy if you are the bad guy. Two bad guys is too many bad guys. :P
Bossman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 11:35 AM   #33
Bossman
Lifetime Member
 
Bossman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tu Fi Foe
Posts: 19,965
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by allmotorek4 View Post
hey i got a question about the hybrid racing... are they the same guys from back in the days who all got they're car jack? is that the same HR?
what does this have to do with the topic?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pulpmelon_r View Post
Why are you lol'ing?

You cannot mock some one for being fearful of an oppressive government when you are afraid of walking the streets with legal firearms around.
Quote:
Originally Posted by signalpuke View Post
I can't be the bad guy if you are the bad guy. Two bad guys is too many bad guys. :P
Bossman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 12:30 PM   #34
allmotorek4
K20a.org Advanced User
 
allmotorek4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 916 norcal
Posts: 822
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman View Post
I find it funny that ONE person had a problem with their HR tensioner and all of a sudden it's a crappy product.funny how noone mentiones the dude that had the rachet teth stripped off his Skunk2 tensioner....(there is/was a thread about it and as a result Skunk 2 upgraded their rachet's material or something)
Concerning oil level....if you have low oil pressure because of low oil level then regardless of what tensioner you have you are inviting disaster.You really should be checking your oil ever fillup,I know I do.

Oem tensioners have failed in as little as a dozen trips down the strip with aggressive,poorly designed cams coughskunk2coughcough.
what dose cams gonna have to do with this topic? you can fix the skunk2 cams by adjustable cam gears, its funny only people on this site have problem with skunk2 cams it seems like everyone know to buy a cam gear to 0 it back out... not everyone check they're oil level every night, we don't drive bwm or VW that burn oil like the gulf of mexico. i bet there are nights you forget.. its as simple as that. 1 time
__________________
shortstop kseries07 HonkeyDongu rowbs2k rsxdc502 Cidone [email protected] siborg Jpax TYFOMOTO/NLM StonerTuning JDMTOKER k20buildinprogress greenhatchy purpej1 Brock tjs03si Qfactor vizhunz02si McCoy, edya, checokxx, sicKstee, Kingnacho83, 03K20A3Si allmotor93hatch JO_TECH
allmotorek4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 12:32 PM   #35
allmotorek4
K20a.org Advanced User
 
allmotorek4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 916 norcal
Posts: 822
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman View Post
what does this have to do with the topic?
i just seeing if they are the same tool.
__________________
shortstop kseries07 HonkeyDongu rowbs2k rsxdc502 Cidone [email protected] siborg Jpax TYFOMOTO/NLM StonerTuning JDMTOKER k20buildinprogress greenhatchy purpej1 Brock tjs03si Qfactor vizhunz02si McCoy, edya, checokxx, sicKstee, Kingnacho83, 03K20A3Si allmotor93hatch JO_TECH
allmotorek4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 12:55 PM   #36
K20EF8
Lifetime Member
 
K20EF8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,437
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by allmotorek4 View Post
what dose cams gonna have to do with this topic? you can fix the skunk2 cams by adjustable cam gears, its funny only people on this site have problem with skunk2 cams it seems like everyone know to buy a cam gear to 0 it back out... not everyone check they're oil level every night, we don't drive bwm or VW that burn oil like the gulf of mexico. i bet there are nights you forget.. its as simple as that. 1 time
If you have little to no oil in the motor a tensioner will be the least of your worries. Thats great that the S2 tensioner will work with no oil or oil pressure, do you think thats going to save your motor in that situation?
Why should people buy a cam gear to correct a design/manufacturing flaw? I dont think that cures the problem either way. The stock tensioner is weak and when using stiffer aftermarket valvesprings and camshafts with certain centerlines and ramp rates, its prone to failure.
I have a hybrid tensioner in my motor but I also have some skunk2 parts on the car as well.
The video suggests that there is a problem with the hybrid tensioner. Whether or not that is the hybrid tensioner in the video is a moot point. Everyone on here, including skunk2, must know that the video suggests a problem with the hybrid tensioner....
You think Hondas dont burn oil?
K20EF8 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 01:53 PM   #37
rbsjnh
K20a.org Master User
 
rbsjnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: selling out
Posts: 18,977
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by K20EF8 View Post
Why should people buy a cam gear to correct a design/manufacturing flaw?
I have been wondering this for years
rbsjnh is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 03:59 PM   #38
crip
Lifetime Member
 
crip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: N.Florida
Posts: 2,721
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by K20EF8 View Post
AFAIK there are 4 tensioners
-OEM
-Skunk2
-Toda
-Hybrid Racing

Since IIRC the toda one is nothing more than an OEM tensioner with a stiffer spring inside, externally arent they the same? If yes then there would be no reason to hide its identity, its looks oem anyway. So in conclusion the other tensioner must be a hybrid one.
forgot omni and hytech
crip is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 04:06 PM   #39
rbsjnh
K20a.org Master User
 
rbsjnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: selling out
Posts: 18,977
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by crip View Post
forgot omni and hytech
didnt know either of them made one...hytech doesnt even recommend them, why would they make one...
rbsjnh is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-08-2010, 04:20 PM   #40
allmotorek4
K20a.org Advanced User
 
allmotorek4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 916 norcal
Posts: 822
Default Re: Stock VS Skunk2 vs Hybrid Racing? Tensioners

Quote:
Originally Posted by K20EF8 View Post
If you have little to no oil in the motor a tensioner will be the least of your worries. Thats great that the S2 tensioner will work with no oil or oil pressure, do you think thats going to save your motor in that situation?
Why should people buy a cam gear to correct a design/manufacturing flaw? I dont think that cures the problem either way. The stock tensioner is weak and when using stiffer aftermarket valvesprings and camshafts with certain centerlines and ramp rates, its prone to failure.
I have a hybrid tensioner in my motor but I also have some skunk2 parts on the car as well.
The video suggests that there is a problem with the hybrid tensioner. Whether or not that is the hybrid tensioner in the video is a moot point. Everyone on here, including skunk2, must know that the video suggests a problem with the hybrid tensioner....
You think Hondas dont burn oil?
i drive a honda .i know they do, but they dont burn a lot of oil as other car company tho. you shouldn't have you check your car every night may be 1 or 2 times a week is fine.
__________________
shortstop kseries07 HonkeyDongu rowbs2k rsxdc502 Cidone [email protected] siborg Jpax TYFOMOTO/NLM StonerTuning JDMTOKER k20buildinprogress greenhatchy purpej1 Brock tjs03si Qfactor vizhunz02si McCoy, edya, checokxx, sicKstee, Kingnacho83, 03K20A3Si allmotor93hatch JO_TECH
allmotorek4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
junk2, skunk2, skunk2 marketing tactics, tensioner

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.