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Old 11-01-2011, 10:14 PM   #81
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What are manifold are they exchanging? Do you send in a manifold and Spoon sends you back a RSP?
RSP for RSP. They bore it out a little bit so that you can use their FD2 throttle body. They only allow the exchange through ADs.
http://spoon-mechanic.seesaa.net/article/183821738.html
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:02 PM   #82
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sweet... it doesnt look any bigger.

Agree, but the runner length looks to be about 30% longer on the RBB...while the plenum of the RSP looks to be about 30% larger.
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Old 11-02-2011, 02:49 AM   #83
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Agree, but the runner length looks to be about 30% longer on the RBB...while the plenum of the RSP looks to be about 30% larger.
I have to find the scratch to get one and measure it up
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Old 11-02-2011, 03:34 AM   #84
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OK guys, here is info for you all.

RBB
Part #: 17110-RBB-000
Weight: 6.2kg
Throttle body opening: 60mm (with idle bypass)
Runner Length: 31.0cm
Runner width: 4.4cm (min)
Runner width: 4.8cm (max)
Individual runner volume: 492.5cc
Total runner volume: 1970cc
Plenum volume: 1650cc
Total manifold volume: 3620cc

RBC
Part #: 17100-RBC-J00
Weight: 4.5kg
Throttle body opening: 62mm (with idle bypass)
Runner Length: 18.5cm
Runner width: 4.8cm (min)
Runner width: 5.1cm (max)
Individual runner volume: 270cc
Total runner volume: 1080cc
Plenum volume: 1720cc
Total manifold volume: 2800cc

RSP
Part #:
17100-RSP-G00
17101-RSP-G00
17102-RSP-G01
17103-RSP-G00
Weight: 5.6kg
Throttle body opening: 64mm (no idle bypass)
Runner Length *1: 25.5cm
Runner Length *2: 19.5cm
Runner width: 4.8cm (min)
Runner width *1: 5.8cm (max)
Runner width *2: 5.1cm (max)
Individual runner volume: 295cc
Individual velocity stack volume: 105cc
Total runner volume *1: 1600cc
Total runner volume *2: 1180cc
Plenum volume *1: 2530cc
Plenum volume *2: 2950cc
Torque Chamber volume: 800cc
Total manifold volume: 4930cc

*1 with velocity stacks fitted
*2 without velocity stacks fitted
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:18 PM   #85
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Default Re: RBC vs RSP(euro type R) intake manifold

So just looking here, would the rsp manifold be better that a rbb mani ... Nokb question lol prob bee. Answered alot of times before
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Old 12-23-2011, 02:44 AM   #86
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i have one on my car i need to do more testing on it k24a2 08 with ips kme's
Would love to see some updates on this
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I'm very interested on how this would do on a mildly modded k24a2 setup. I think it would really shine even more so than on a 2.0, considering the similarly shaped RBB was designed specifically for the k24a2.

Anyone in chicago have one? I've got the engine setup

Otherwise great thread with great info. nice job boys
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Old 12-28-2011, 04:48 AM   #89
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I'm very interested on how this would do on a mildly modded k24a2 setup. I think it would really shine even more so than on a 2.0, considering the similarly shaped RBB was designed specifically for the k24a2.

Anyone in chicago have one? I've got the engine setup

Otherwise great thread with great info. nice job boys
6spd_EK has RSP manifold, as we made exchange with him RRC to RSP ;) It would be nice to see results on mildly modded k24a2 setup ;)
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6spd_EK has RSP manifold, as we made exchange with him RRC to RSP ;) It would be nice to see results on mildly modded k24a2 setup ;)
just waiting on a custom TB/IACV adapter. I will probably cut it for a a2 head soon tho. I do have a friend with a 12.5 2.4 kme/dtr/rrc setup, maybe he'll want to test it
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Old 12-28-2011, 05:23 AM   #91
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just waiting on a custom TB/IACV adapter. I will probably cut it for a a2 head soon tho. I do have a friend with a 12.5 2.4 kme/dtr/rrc setup, maybe he'll want to test it
before cut it would be nice to test on the K24A2 Friend with K24 block, give him as he has RRC - would be nice to compare RRC vs RSP ?
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Do it. do it..!
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just waiting on a custom TB/IACV adapter. I will probably cut it for a a2 head soon tho. I do have a friend with a 12.5 2.4 kme/dtr/rrc setup, maybe he'll want to test it
PlZzz do this soo anxious to see it tested on k24, rrc vs rbc vs rsp.
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PlZzz do this soo anxious to see it tested on k24, rrc vs rbc vs rsp.


Yes please, that I have curiodad do.
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:08 AM   #95
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RRC
Part #: 17100-RRC-000
Weight: xx kg
Throttle body opening: 64mm
Runner Length: ~ 19.0cm
Runner width: ~5.1cm (min)
Runner width: ~5.3cm (max)
Individual runner volume: xxxcc
Total runner volume: xxxxcc
Plenum volume: xxxxcc
Total manifold volume: xxxxcc
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:03 AM   #96
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What throttle body bolt pattern does the RSP have?
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:11 AM   #97
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What throttle body bolt pattern does the RSP have?
Same as the RRC
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Same as the RRC
but not enough meat on it to work with a standard TB adpater plate (no IACV obviously) Karcepts is making a new adapter that will work with RSP & '06+ RBB.

I'm working on some different stacks for my RSP before I do any testing
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but not enough meat on it to work with a standard TB adpater plate (no IACV obviously) Karcepts is making a new adapter that will work with RSP & '06+ RBB.

I'm working on some different stacks for my RSP before I do any testing
My clearance in a 2001-05 chassis is tighter than a 10 year old backache. The pictures below are with a 2003 Accord TB, but I don't know how to route the throttle cable...I guess I could weld a throttle cable stay onto the TB





I will either pick up a CL7 TB if I can find one or get the Karcepts adaptor...I look forward to your testing with different sized trumpets. I'm looking forward to testing the RSP against a RBB in a KME cammed TSX motor...I'm looking for the most midrange power.
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Hey guys, which CL7 TB is required? I'm assuming the CL7-R because of the included throttle cable stay

simple CL7:

CL7 euro-R:
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