New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana - Page 49 - K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-21-2016, 02:39 PM   #961
kb58
K20a.org Master User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Radiator Springs
Posts: 2,724
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Quote:
Originally Posted by drtye View Post
awesome to hear Kurt, does all the composite work bring back memories of kimini? None the less, the new aero work looks mean. I like it
Oh yeah, it underscores that I'm working with the stuff in a poor environment. Given more space with better ventilation (and detached from the house), I'd be singing the praises of it. Composite work is best for making multiple copies of a shape, especially one with 3D curves. Making one of something with single-plane bends is a waste of the material, and not vacuum-bagging it means the end product weighs the same as aluminum, never mind being more likely to contain bubbles. I guess what I'm saying is that you pick your battles - it's great for production parts, less so for one offs. That said, the look of the end product was important in this case because it's out there on top for everyone to see. The thought of square corners on the ducting overrode my aversions. That's the long answer
__________________
midlana.com:Turbo K24-powered mid-engine Super 7, and the book on how to build your own!
Kimini book: Mid-engine sports car design using a FWD drivetrain.

Last edited by kb58; 12-07-2016 at 05:55 AM..
kb58 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-07-2016, 05:58 AM   #962
kb58
K20a.org Master User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Radiator Springs
Posts: 2,724
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Still around but am taking time off from the car after 7(!) years to work on something totally different, redoing our backyard koi pond. Building the new filter system is a refreshing change from the car yet requires all the same tools and fabrication skills. This is a half-completed rotating drum filter. Water flows in from the right into the barrel, then flows out through a filter screen (not installed yet). When the output-side water level drops it means the screen is starting to plug up and a float switch turns on a gear-reduction motor and sprayer to clean it off. It "should" be an entirely hands-off unit when done.



To keep this somewhat car-related, here's my car next to my brother's, an LS3-powered Stalker, sort of a sprint car for the street. Both cars make about the same power but are very different animals!

__________________
midlana.com:Turbo K24-powered mid-engine Super 7, and the book on how to build your own!
Kimini book: Mid-engine sports car design using a FWD drivetrain.

Last edited by kb58; 12-07-2016 at 10:00 AM..
kb58 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-07-2016, 12:37 PM   #963
LotusElise
Lifetime Member
 
LotusElise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SoBW
Posts: 3,533
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Quote:
Originally Posted by kb58 View Post
...redoing our backyard koi pond. Building the new filter system...This is a half-completed rotating drum filter. Water flows in from the right into the barrel, then flows out through a filter screen (not installed yet). When the output-side water level drops it means the screen is starting to plug up and a float switch turns on a gear-reduction motor and sprayer to clean it off. It "should" be an entirely hands-off unit when done.
Very smart development kb58 . Does it belong to the backyard we can see in the picture? If so, the right side of it would run the pump all the time...LOL . This is a real water demanding soil .

Concerning the filter cleaning technique, similar is used in power plant exhaust gas filtering (dust), which uses sort of paper or fleece filter (don't know better word) which get's pulsated by pressure vibration. There the process is like get rid of the dust at the fleece and than - important - it falls down according gravity. With your technique, you would have to support the particles not only to get rid of the filter screen also to get out of the barrel. Did you solve the particle flow out too?

Markus
LotusElise is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-08-2016, 06:30 AM   #964
kb58
K20a.org Master User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Radiator Springs
Posts: 2,724
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Quote:
Originally Posted by LotusElise View Post
Very smart development kb58 . Does it belong to the backyard we can see in the picture? If so, the right side of it would run the pump all the time...LOL . This is a real water demanding soil .

Concerning the filter cleaning technique, similar is used in power plant exhaust gas filtering (dust), which uses sort of paper or fleece filter (don't know better word) which get's pulsated by pressure vibration. There the process is like get rid of the dust at the fleece and than - important - it falls down according gravity. With your technique, you would have to support the particles not only to get rid of the filter screen also to get out of the barrel. Did you solve the particle flow out too?

Markus
No, that's not my yard

Credit where credit is due, I read through several build threads on how people made their own and went with this one, so it's about 90% someone else's design.

Because dirty water enters the barrel, the waste and dirt is stuck to the inside surface. As the drum rotates up out of the water, high-pressure sprayers blow the waste off the screen into a collection tray that's just above the surface of the water. The waste is washed down the tray and out to be disposed of. The assembly isn't done which is why there's no tray or gear motor yet. To not waste water (we're in SoCal, drought central), the sprayer and motor only activate via a float switch when needed, when the output-side water level drops. Lastly, all waste water ends up on plants or vegetables, so in a way the pond uses zero water.
__________________
midlana.com:Turbo K24-powered mid-engine Super 7, and the book on how to build your own!
Kimini book: Mid-engine sports car design using a FWD drivetrain.

Last edited by kb58; 12-08-2016 at 06:55 AM..
kb58 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-24-2017, 05:03 PM   #965
kb58
K20a.org Master User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Radiator Springs
Posts: 2,724
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Infrequent update:
I'm still around, but still burnt out on composite work. The car's fine, I just haven't be driving it because this is our rainy season and surprise, this season, SoCal's been getting hammered. It's just as well since I'm spending my time still working on the pond system.

The only car-related update I have is that I attempted to drop off the composite air ducts to a paint shop but they weren't interested. Well, they used the excuse that they couldn't color match my chosen color... I bit my tongue really hard and didn't say "you're the only paint shop I've ever known that can't color match." The real reason is that they didn't want to do it... I'd have respected that honest answer better. Anyhow, I'll take in a color sample to a automotive paint shop where they can computer-match the color, then try again - at some different auto paint shop.
__________________
midlana.com:Turbo K24-powered mid-engine Super 7, and the book on how to build your own!
Kimini book: Mid-engine sports car design using a FWD drivetrain.
kb58 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2017, 03:14 AM   #966
drtye
Lifetime Member
 
drtye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: PA
Posts: 9,966
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Ugh, thats frustrating to hear. Only one more reason I will be using ral colors in the future.
drtye is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2017, 06:15 AM   #967
Chance EG
K20a.org Basic User
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 134
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Quote:
Originally Posted by kb58 View Post
Infrequent update:

The only car-related update I have is that I attempted to drop off the composite air ducts to a paint shop but they weren't interested. Well, they used the excuse that they couldn't color match my chosen color... I bit my tongue really hard and didn't say "you're the only paint shop I've ever known that can't color match." The real reason is that they didn't want to do it... I'd have respected that honest answer better. Anyhow, I'll take in a color sample to a automotive paint shop where they can computer-match the color, then try again - at some different auto paint shop.
I know how you feel... I haven't had my EG in over 7 months because when I first took it to get painted (Maaco, huge mistake from the get-go) the car sat at their shop for 6 weeks after I had already paid them and they didn't even START working on it.

After that I took the car to a shop 700 miles away in my hometown that I thought I could trust. The car has been there since Thanksgiving and they haven't started painting it, and keep giving me run-arounds and lately even some rather blatant hostility...

Unfortunately its incredibly hard to find decent work these days.... Incredibly hard... Just pathetic really since all I'm requesting is a factory black repaint, which was the original color of the car anyway.
Chance EG is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2017, 08:20 AM   #968
libertymkiii
New Member
 
libertymkiii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 54
Default Re: Mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

All the skills and tricks you have learned so far... Its time to learn to paint. I learned years ago from a painter. I have done many garage paint jobs since then. Now days I am sure you could learn via YouTube

01' MR2 K20 swap, crazy mods to come
libertymkiii is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2017, 08:22 AM   #969
Chance EG
K20a.org Basic User
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 134
Default Re: Mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Quote:
Originally Posted by libertymkiii View Post
All the skills and tricks you have learned so far... Its time to learn to paint. I learned years ago from a painter. I have done many garage paint jobs since then. Now days I am sure you could learn via YouTube
I was actually going to comment about something like that up above.

I feel like if you take the automotive hobby seriously now, unfortunately you pretty much do have to become an expert at everything and do it yourself. Can't trust engine shops, can't trust body shops, can't trust your tuner... lol
Chance EG is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2017, 05:31 AM   #970
LotusElise
Lifetime Member
 
LotusElise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SoBW
Posts: 3,533
Default Re: Mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chance EG View Post
I feel like if you take the automotive hobby seriously now, unfortunately you pretty much do have to become an expert at everything and do it yourself. Can't trust engine shops, can't trust body shops, can't trust your tuner... lol
Seems to be they have other goals like money making, instead of listing to the demands of the customer. I had two of such companies in the boat. Trying next time a different one or doing the DIY thing? Depending on ones capabilities: work room, money, time.
LotusElise is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2017, 05:34 AM   #971
LotusElise
Lifetime Member
 
LotusElise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SoBW
Posts: 3,533
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Quote:
Originally Posted by kb58 View Post
I bit my tongue really hard and didn't say "you're the only paint shop I've ever known that can't color match."
Very nice phrase to know kb58...bit my tongue hard... . Beside that, these guys don't like to work. Are they overflooded by orders?

Markus
LotusElise is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2017, 07:08 AM   #972
libertymkiii
New Member
 
libertymkiii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 54
Default Re: New mid-engine K24 project, Midlana

Quote:
Originally Posted by LotusElise View Post
Very nice phrase to know kb58...bit my tongue hard... . Beside that, these guys don't like to work. Are they overflooded by orders?

Markus
In the US 98% of shops make their money with insurace claims/repairs. If you walk up asking for a full paint job willing to pay 4,000.00 they will turn you away. The exception being Maaco however they do not provide great quality.

01' MR2 K20 swap, crazy mods to come
libertymkiii is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.