: K Series Engine Weight


twincam
07-08-2004, 05:06 PM
Does anyone know how much the K20 and K24 engines weigh? I don't want to upset the handling of the EG too much.

On a similar note, what are the handling characteristics like with a EG/EK/K20/K24 swap? More understeer I imagine.

Cheers,
Dave

nikos
07-09-2004, 11:37 AM
taken from honda tech

k20a.org user named locash
posted

As I was removing the B20VTEC from my 99 Integra to install a JDM K20A with the new Hasport EG/DC K-Series mount kit (shameless plug), it dawned on me that I still had not seen any real numbers regarding the weight differences of these things. I dug out my trusty Longacre corner balance scales, zero'd them out, and tossed the motors on em. I made sure to take pictures of the scale readings, name them, save them to the pc, and clear out the camera before I did the 2nd motor. I also tried to keep the motors as similiar as possible, neither had an exhaust manifold of any kind, or an A/C compressor. The B-Series motor DID have a power steering pump, and the A/C torque mount, so factor in 5 lbs or so on top of the numbers below..


B-Series engine/trans: 401 pounds

K-Series engine/trans: 403 pounds

In conclusion, these are surprising numbers, I figured (like most I bet) that the K-Series motor would be lighter. I'll weigh a few more B and K series swaps in the coming weeks and see what else I find.

http://www.fuckcanada.com/engine-weights/B20VTEC/b20vtec-scale1.JPG
http://www.fuckcanada.com/engine-weights/B20VTEC/b20vtec-scale3.JPG

http://www.fuckcanada.com/engine-weights/k20a/k20a-scale1.JPG
http://www.fuckcanada.com/engine-weights/k20a/k20a-scale4.JPG

JETLAGRACING
07-09-2004, 05:10 PM
Inaccurate.

The lotus forums I go they get there engine wieghts and from what I see the f20c is 328lbs Dressed.

The K20 was 275.

twincam
07-15-2004, 10:27 PM
Thanks for the info guys. I think I'll believe the scales.

Cheers.

JETLAGRACING
07-16-2004, 12:00 AM
Thanks for the info guys. I think I'll believe the scales.

Cheers.

What you think what I said I just made up, what I posted above was with from the manufacturer.

The lotus guy are uneasy about putty heavy ass engines in the exige's.

They really like the k20 over there.

taqman15
07-16-2004, 07:43 AM
Inaccurate.

The lotus forums I go they get there engine wieghts and from what I see the f20c is 328lbs Dressed.

The K20 was 275.

if you seriously think a complete K20 motor weighs 275, you need to lay off whatever you are smoking.

I can see just the longblock weighing 275 but no way the complete motor weighs that little

nikos
07-16-2004, 07:59 AM
Locash has no reason to lie about the freaking weights, so I believe the scales instead of the internet scales.. lol

brian g
07-16-2004, 08:04 AM
The lotus forums I go they get there engine wieghts and from what I see the f20c is 328lbs Dressed.

The K20 was 275.

The Lotus forum weights are engine only weights. Locash weighed the engines with tranny, flywheel and clutch.

brian g

taqman15
07-16-2004, 08:37 AM
The lotus forums I go they get there engine wieghts and from what I see the f20c is 328lbs Dressed.

The K20 was 275.

The Lotus forum weights are engine only weights. Locash weighed the engines with tranny, flywheel and clutch.

brian g

that makes more sense. apparently none of you guys have tried to lift one of those motors

JETLAGRACING
07-16-2004, 06:55 PM
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K20A: RSX Type-R 275
F20A: S2000 281 (don't know if this is diff from the F20C)
Rover K Series: OG Elise 189
Rover K VVTA: Elise 111S 206 ? unofficial based on the head weight delta
2ZZ-GE: Celica GTS 246 (Toyota headers and intake)
Renesis: RX8 275


Wasen't a dressed wieght.

This is.

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Dressed ( in lbs)
Renesis = 273 F20C= 326


Did not say he was a liar, and I dont smoke taqman.
I would not call that an accurate way in measuring an engines wieght.

With what looks like a corner weight scale two of them put together.

brian g
07-16-2004, 08:29 PM
I would not call that an accurate way in measuring an engines wieght.

With what looks like a corner weight scale two of them put together.

It's accurate to +- 1 lb.

brian g

JETLAGRACING
07-16-2004, 08:41 PM
I would not call that an accurate way in measuring an engines wieght.

With what looks like a corner weight scale two of them put together.

It's accurate to +- 1 lb.

brian g


Yes I'm not discriminating the corner wieght scale for the car.
In my opinion not for a leaning engine.

Thats just me.

brian g
07-16-2004, 08:49 PM
The physics are the same, the weight is accurate.

The weights you posted are simply without transmissions attached. That's how Honda weighs them.

brian g

JETLAGRACING
07-16-2004, 09:20 PM
The physics are the same, the weight is accurate.

The weights you posted are simply without transmissions attached. That's how Honda weighs them.

brian g

I understand now. Thats not how I was told to look at physics in school.